At a loss for words.

Gerald · 03-27-11, 06:46 PM

Sorry to hear about your friend, I hope he finds peace in another world!

Freiwillige · 03-27-11, 07:07 PM

I barely knew him, I met him maybe three times in my life. But I knew enough about him to be in awe of him and show him the utmost respect when I did see him. He was likable in a broken sort of way. Cant really describe it.

CCIP · 03-27-11, 07:08 PM

Another casualty of war that'll never get counted in the official lists - but a story all too common.

Looking at his pictures is really sad and revealing - you can definitely tell he was a great guy, but not all was right. In between an honest warrior and a guy loved by his family and friends, there was also someone who got pretty torn up mentally and on edge.

Freiwillige · 03-27-11, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CCIP

Another casualty of war that'll never get counted in the official lists - but a story all too common.

Looking at his pictures is really sad and revealing - you can definitely tell he was a great guy, but not all was right. In between an honest warrior and a guy loved by his family and friends, there was also someone who got pretty torn up mentally and on edge.

I couldn't have put it better.

frau kaleun · 03-27-11, 07:28 PM

So very sad. My condolences to you and his loved ones.

the_tyrant · 03-27-11, 07:52 PM

Sorry to hear about this, my condolences

Gargamel · 03-27-11, 08:01 PM

You have my condolences for the loss of your friend. And as mentioned, this is a war casualty that will never get recorded as such.

But I have trouble honoring a man who shoots another (assumed) unarmed man, and then opens fire at a police officer. I have lost friends and colleagues before to these types of actions, and I have little sympathy in my heart for anybody who perpetrates them. I do not know the circumstances of the initial shooting, but he initiated the exchange with the police, per the story. That, in my mind, leaves no room for any excuses.

Yes, he was suffering from PTSD. But how many other vets are going through the same thing, yet they are not out there shooting cops and bystanders? That means maybe there is a lot more to this story than we know.

I'm sorry if I seem harsh here, and you do have my condolences. I'm sorry for your loss, and I hope you and yours can find some closure to deal with this.

Freiwillige · 03-27-11, 08:18 PM

@Gargamel. I agree 100%. No its not harsh its fact. I don't know if the man he shot was unarmed or not but I am assuming so. Jeremiah came back with a very short fuse, Nobody that knows him can deny that he came back a different person.

I will let you know more when I find out more facts.

Freiwillige · 03-27-11, 09:09 PM

You know as I browse through his facebook pages getting to know a little more about Jeremiah I found this one thing ironic. It was a facebook app called how will you die. It said "Due to your love of guns and the military you are going to die in combat."

He wrote underneath it that he survived Iraq and Afghanistan so that is not how he was going to die.

03-27-11, 06:46 PM	#1
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	Sorry to hear about your friend, I hope he finds peace in another world! __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

03-27-11, 07:08 PM	#3
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Another casualty of war that'll never get counted in the official lists - but a story all too common. Looking at his pictures is really sad and revealing - you can definitely tell he was a great guy, but not all was right. In between an honest warrior and a guy loved by his family and friends, there was also someone who got pretty torn up mentally and on edge. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

03-27-11, 08:01 PM	#7
Gargamel Lucky Sailor Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Rome Posts: 4,273 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	You have my condolences for the loss of your friend. And as mentioned, this is a war casualty that will never get recorded as such. But I have trouble honoring a man who shoots another (assumed) unarmed man, and then opens fire at a police officer. I have lost friends and colleagues before to these types of actions, and I have little sympathy in my heart for anybody who perpetrates them. I do not know the circumstances of the initial shooting, but he initiated the exchange with the police, per the story. That, in my mind, leaves no room for any excuses. Yes, he was suffering from PTSD. But how many other vets are going through the same thing, yet they are not out there shooting cops and bystanders? That means maybe there is a lot more to this story than we know. I'm sorry if I seem harsh here, and you do have my condolences. I'm sorry for your loss, and I hope you and yours can find some closure to deal with this. __________________ Luck is a residue of Design.

03-27-11, 07:07 PM	#2
Freiwillige The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phx. Az Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	I barely knew him, I met him maybe three times in my life. But I knew enough about him to be in awe of him and show him the utmost respect when I did see him. He was likable in a broken sort of way. Cant really describe it.

03-27-11, 07:28 PM	#5
frau kaleun Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skyri--oh who are we kidding, I'm probably at Lowe's. Again. Posts: 12,706 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	So very sad. My condolences to you and his loved ones.

03-27-11, 07:52 PM	#6
the_tyrant Admiral Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 2,272 Downloads: 58 Uploads: 0	Sorry to hear about this, my condolences

03-27-11, 08:18 PM	#8
Freiwillige The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phx. Az Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	@Gargamel. I agree 100%. No its not harsh its fact. I don't know if the man he shot was unarmed or not but I am assuming so. Jeremiah came back with a very short fuse, Nobody that knows him can deny that he came back a different person. I will let you know more when I find out more facts.

03-27-11, 09:09 PM	#9
Freiwillige The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phx. Az Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	You know as I browse through his facebook pages getting to know a little more about Jeremiah I found this one thing ironic. It was a facebook app called how will you die. It said "Due to your love of guns and the military you are going to die in combat." He wrote underneath it that he survived Iraq and Afghanistan so that is not how he was going to die.