Are you a painter?

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Torplexed

Pencil and paper for me too for creating the initial drawing or sketch. I still find drawing from scratch with a Wacom tablet awkward no matter what program it is.

Indeed, I honestly don't know how she does it. She still does pencil and paper scans on some pictures, well, pencil then ink in the line art and then scan and go from there, but sometimes she just starts from scratch on the tablet. Completely baffles me, I mean I used to use a tablet back at Middle School but you give me one now and I'm all over the shop with it.

[Torplexed]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Indeed, I honestly don't know how she does it. She still does pencil and paper scans on some pictures, well, pencil then ink in the line art and then scan and go from there, but sometimes she just starts from scratch on the tablet. Completely baffles me, I mean I used to use a tablet back at Middle School but you give me one now and I'm all over the shop with it.

She's fortunate that way. Some people have the ability. I just find moving my pen over one surface while staring at another too much of a disconnect.

Maybe it's tablet PC time. Money, money, money.

Eh I about as much artistic ability as a rock, so no I don't paint.

[Feuer Frei!]

My father was a 'Mahler Meister' in Germany, had his own business there, anything to do with paint he did, calligraphy as well!
He, since retiring many years ago, has also painted many pictures, landscapes, portraits, stills etc etc.
Incredibly gifted man.
Me? Not an artistic bone in my body

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Torplexed

Ahh. I forgot my demo probably doesn't have all the options enabled. Yes, it's a pretty good program considering. I was experimenting drawing Conan with the pen and ink tools today and it does probably the best I've ever seen for digital media. It doesn't exactly make you Frank Frazzeta caliber, but not bad. I imagine if you had a Cintiq or tablet PC where you are actually looking at what your pen is doing it would be even better.

What got me is the way they have simulated oil paint and watercolours. I know such things from early PSP9, Corel Painter, Adobe, but nowhere the interaction between canvas, brush and wet colour looked so convincing.

If you check their fourm, there is a long sub forum with works presented by their creators, gallery. Some of the really good stuff there fools you into believing it is real, really. But their creators obviously are well-skilled and technically experienced real painters indeed.

One of the videos I set up shows how they work on a tablet PC with touchscreen, like you mentioned. This kind of program, is a prime argument for considering them.

Your demo is limited in functions, but be aware there are also two demos, one for ArtRage 2.5 Starter, and one for Studio Pro. Try the latter, if you have picked the 2.5 Starter, the trial time is 30 days.

The only feature that I miss so far from PSP9 is the separate colour palette where you not just pick colours like here, but can actually mix them with your brush and separated from the canvas, mixing them from those you put on the it, like real painters would do, too. After some time the colour palette there started to look as chaotic and mixed like a real one! But picking the colour that you want is easy and fast here, too.

[Skybird]

And on Wacom boards, on the few opportunities I used my old one, I used to use it with a trick, that it to always have a smooth, but thick paper or packing paper glued to the surface. The plastic surface is too smooth, for my taste (don'T know how it is with the newer ones), but paper with smooth surface and a weight of 120 or 150 mg per A4 sheet adds the feeling of using a mixture of ballpen and lead pencil when moving the plastic tip of the digital key over it. There is more conbtrol in your movement, it is easier not to stray off with a slight motion of the tip. It feels more naturally.

The apüper must be replaced occasionally, of course, and if you use a pressure sensitive pencil, you may need to readjust the pressure settings for the Wacom board or the painting software, so that you must not use so much pressure anymore and do not cut the paper apart.

Using a piece of paper also works wonders if you want to paint with pastel crayon where you often do not wish to imply much pressure in order to bring only small loads of "paint" onto the canvas.

[Skybird]

And check out this guy's mastery of arts, name is Khalid Ipda:

http://www.google.de/images?hl=de&as...&q=khalid+ipda

This is Ambientdesign's home forum, the gallery section: check and pick at random, find good paintings, find overwhelming paintings, find moderate paintings - there are 20 thousand threads!

http://www2.ambientdesign.com/forums...isplay.php?f=4

[Skybird]

Just a heads-up for our artists - while Artrage is at version 4 on the PC now, I just learned that just short time ago Aretrage finally was released on ANDROID.



I just tested it (4.50 Euros) and in those two hours, more or less, I had no technical glitch or issue - rocksolid so far! (Samsung Galaxy 2 10.1, Android 4.4.2)

Very nice. I have little use for graphic software like this, but I just like it nevertheless, and the interface is wonderful. Even more when you know it from PC, since then you have not much to learn.

[Lionclaw]

Nice!

I have practiced on and off, started with a Wacom tablet, but I got more into practicing with pencils and paper.

Mostly doodles or just some things. I seem to have a fascination for eyes or something though. xD

Shading and such, is what I've been practicing mostly.

[Aktungbby]

That's gotta be Divisadero or Steiner street headed north to Lombard and out to the Golden Gate! Thanks!

[Skybird]

the great advantage of this painting software is the interface. i checked several comparable titles, but none had such an accessible and easy jnterface.

[Wolferz]

I can paint myself into a corner so, I don't do floors.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Wolferz

I can paint myself into a corner so, I don't do floors.

LOL...something like that

Nice piece of kit though

[Skybird]

On my older Galaxy 10.1 2 the brush paints a bit lsower than on more modern, faster tablet, but still I get along, getting used to it. The nice thing is that the brush paints nevertheless smooth curves when I want that, it doe snot break them up in small linear pieces.

These are some pics to illustrate what the specific Android version of ArtRage can do in the hands of a professional painter. All from Artrage homepage. - Don't call it a toy, don't say this app is not capable of truly amazing things! And it handles so easily.







And these galleries are the easiest way to see illustrations of the interface, on a cellphone display. Of course, tablet I would recommend. Their specs say it is for Galaxy 4 and higher, but as I said, when accepting that the colour does its magic on the "paper" a bit slower, I can make full and enjoyable use of it on my older Galaxy 10.1 2 , too.

http://www.artrage.com/artrage-android/samples/

Inbuild is the feature from PC to have an original (photo, lets say) "under" you canvas, you can define the opacity, and then you can easily trace trace it, like you would do a first sketch with coal before you actually start with the colours, to do a first draft of the painting, its contours and objects. Brushes can stay dirty, if you want, and in the tracing mode you can set them to automatically pick the colour under them from the original, when you touch the screen.

I hate that I am not more skilled and trained in painting. Actually, I am not a good painter at all, but this thing makes me wanting to be a more gifted talent.

[Aktungbby]

Too bad Hitler didn't have one of these; his failed Vienna artist career might have taken a different turn...