Should men in uniform be forced to shave? - Page 4

Penguin · 03-25-11, 11:58 AM

I fail to see a connection between facial hair and professionalism, yet understand the safety argument.
The pressure for uniformity and conformity was one of the main reasons why I didn't join the forces - but that's my personal choice. The guy also knew the politics of the military.

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Multicultural diversity! It serves the military cause to approach military task in many different ways and ethnic habits!

That's why every single military forces of the world are only made up from racial and cultural homogenous people....

MH · 03-25-11, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Weiss Pinguin

I wonder what the IDF's rules are on this

I haven't seen many pictures of bushy-bearded Israeli soldiers...

You need to be shave clean or have grown a beard but lets say that representative look is the weakest side of IDF.
Idf don't have flashy badges and nice uniforms and too much discipline about smart look parading and other military bull.
I guess because of its relatively short tradition.

TLAM Strike · 03-25-11, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Penguin

That's why every single military forces of the world are only made up from racial and cultural homogenous people....

...well there was one of note...

Penguin · 03-25-11, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

...well there was one of note...

are you talking about the Blue Division, the Turkmuselmanische Division, the Skanderbeg Division or the Indian Legion?

Hell, we even had (unshaved) polar bears on our side:

03-25-11, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendor

That guy would look much more badass with a beard, right now he looks like a pansy.

Now that guy.... you'd surrender faster then the French if you saw him marching towards your country.

Gerald · 03-25-11, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rilder

That guy would look much more badass with a beard, right now he looks like a pansy.

Now that guy.... you'd surrender faster then the French if you saw him marching towards your country.

Maybe in HIS dream,

frau kaleun · 03-25-11, 01:01 PM

I don't know about the rest of you, but I can totally see myself surrendering to Dude #1.

Dude #2 - not so much.

krashkart · 03-25-11, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rilder

That guy would look much more badass with a beard, right now he looks like a pansy.

Now that guy.... you'd surrender faster then the French if you saw him marching towards your country.

Having a beard is like wearing machineguns on your face! And that dude is already loaded for bear.

03-25-11, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by August

Well I would say that a soldier who cares that much about his precious beard is not a perfectly good soldier but rather a prima-donna that is likely to throw a similar hissy fit every time a personally disagreeable regulation is applied to him.

He'd be bad news for any military unit and I for one certainly wouldn't want him in the foxhole next to me.

That is possibly the best way to sum up this whole argument right there.

I always worked towards the thought of, its not about me, its about the guy next to me. Most of the men and women I worked with tended to agree with that idea.

I always found the idea of getting shot at personally disagreeable, but I worked through it. If you can't get past the shaving part, I don't think you fit the standard.

Nothing is funny to me than the jokes military personnel tell about each other.

How many CSMs does it take it change a light bulb?

Three, One to do it, one to tell you how it used to be, and another to tell you how it is.

Told to me by my old CSM.

Ducimus · 03-25-11, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rilder

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Originally Posted by frau kaleun

I don't know about the rest of you, but I can totally see myself surrendering to Dude #1.

Dude #2 - not so much.

August · 03-25-11, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Slyguy3129

How many CSMs does it take it change a light bulb?

Trick question. No CSM alive or dead ever changed a light bulb his self, that's what Privates are for!

Platapus · 03-25-11, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rilder

Now that guy.... you'd surrender faster then the French if you saw him marching towards your country.

He looks out of place without a single wide trailer to guard.

Gerald · 03-25-11, 07:09 PM

Remind me of him who carried out an armed robbery a few days ago

03-25-11, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by August

Trick question. No CSM alive or dead ever changed a light bulb his self, that's what Privates are for!

Truer words have not been spoken.

For the rabbi I suggest a SF branch. If I recall from my days we had a band of guys that were encouraged to grow beards to blend in, I just don't recall which ones. Rangers? Maybe Seal? Don't know bout the Marines as they are all about appearance. Heck they teach girls how to apply makeup without a mirror!

Oberon · 03-25-11, 09:19 PM

Godwins law in five...four...three...two...one...

Gas masks are one of the primary reasons that this gentleman changed his facial hair from it's original Prussian style to something a bit more...historically recognisable:

Although it did sod all to save him from being busted up by a British mustard gas attack in 1918.

Now that I've given this thread its official Godwins law post, I shall agree with the others in this thread in that facial hair in the military should be kept to the minimum. Short clipped mustaches at the most, primarily because of the need for gas masks.

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frau kaleun Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skyri--oh who are we kidding, I'm probably at Lowe's. Again. Posts: 12,706 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	I don't know about the rest of you, but I can totally see myself surrendering to Dude #1. Dude #2 - not so much.

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Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Godwins law in five...four...three...two...one... Gas masks are one of the primary reasons that this gentleman changed his facial hair from it's original Prussian style to something a bit more...historically recognisable: Although it did sod all to save him from being busted up by a British mustard gas attack in 1918. Now that I've given this thread its official Godwins law post, I shall agree with the others in this thread in that facial hair in the military should be kept to the minimum. Short clipped mustaches at the most, primarily because of the need for gas masks.