Should men in uniform be forced to shave?

Originally Posted by Platapus

It's still a volunteer force.

What if the draft is instituted, would I be able to get out of service by growing a beard and refusing to cut it off? Or will they tie me down and forcefully shave me everytime my facial hair gets too long?

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by Rilder

What if the draft is instituted, would I be able to get out of service by growing a beard and refusing to cut it off? Or will they tie me down and forcefully shave me everytime my facial hair gets too long?

No, they would use a little thing called "collective punishment". It is an awesome way to manipulate a group of people to force adherence to standards

The DI punishes everyone else because you won't shave.

The problem will be resolved soon.

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[GoldenRivet]

My opinion:

The following should be allowed to have beards:

Any member of a special forces unit
Anyone serving in the Navy in a non-flying role
Anyone serving in any branch of service if religious reasons are given provided the individual is involved with a chaplain position

[Wreford-Brown]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

My opinion:

The following should be allowed to have beards:

Any member of a special forces unit
Anyone serving in the Navy in a non-flying role
Anyone serving in any branch of service if religious reasons are given provided the individual is involved with a chaplain position

British Special Forces shave unless they are working in an environment where they are not meant to stand out from the crowd.

The Royal Navy allows all of it's members to grow a beard as long as it is kept tidy.

Chaplains tend to do their own thing anyway (despite being non-combatants I know of a few who are armed 'to protect their flock'), but if the rules state that you need to shave then you should shave. If you want to serve your country and keep your beard then join another service like the Navy!

[August]

Originally Posted by Rilder

What if the draft is instituted, would I be able to get out of service by growing a beard and refusing to cut it off? Or will they tie me down and forcefully shave me everytime my facial hair gets too long?

Well no, they'd just put you in a military prison for the duration of your service, maybe longer, then eventually toss you out with a dishonorable discharge. Don't confuse the way they treat volunteer non conformists with the way they'll treat draftees.

Originally Posted by August

Well no, they'd just put you in a military prison for the duration of your service, maybe longer, then eventually toss you out with a dishonorable discharge. Don't confuse the way they treat volunteer non conformists with the way they'll treat draftees.

What if every single draftee grows a beard? Throw them all in prison?

Seems pretty retarded to throw a perfectly good soldier into prison because of a bit of facial hair, what if manpower is low? At what point do you start risking losing the war because of facial hair?

This is just What-ifs scenarios running through my head, honestly. Obviously if there is a draft going on then there is manpower needed and the war has a chance of being lost.

[August]

Originally Posted by Rilder

What if every single draftee grows a beard? Throw them all in prison?

Seems pretty retarded to throw a perfectly good soldier into prison because of a bit of facial hair, what if manpower is low? At what point do you start risking losing the war because of facial hair?

Well I would say that a soldier who cares that much about his precious beard is not a perfectly good soldier but rather a prima-donna that is likely to throw a similar hissy fit every time a personally disagreeable regulation is applied to him.

He'd be bad news for any military unit and I for one certainly wouldn't want him in the foxhole next to me.

[kiwi_2005]

I like beards Ive always wanted to grow one of those ZZ top beards but I can never get pass the 3rd week of growing one, face becomes very ichy that I end up shaving it off. I cant handle it Maybe when Im an old man and have no feeling in my face then I'll grow myself a ZZ top one.

[Gerald]

I personally think that you have an obligation to follow the rules, if you have been contracted or agreed to voluntarily

Because if that last fact he won't win in court.

Yet according to the lawyer 3 people have been allowed in the past 2 years and the lawyer has been fighting and winning these beardy cases over several decades.

[Rockstar]

The military CAN NOT make you do anything you don't want to do!

But they can make you wish you had. So do me a favor and say hello to my cousin Bubba for me.

Originally Posted by August

Well I would say that a soldier who cares that much about his precious beard is not a perfectly good soldier but rather a prima-donna that is likely to throw a similar hissy fit every time a personally disagreeable regulation is applied to him.

He'd be bad news for any military unit and I for one certainly wouldn't want him in the foxhole next to me.

That is possibly the best way to sum up this whole argument right there.

I always worked towards the thought of, its not about me, its about the guy next to me. Most of the men and women I worked with tended to agree with that idea.

I always found the idea of getting shot at personally disagreeable, but I worked through it. If you can't get past the shaving part, I don't think you fit the standard.

Nothing is funny to me than the jokes military personnel tell about each other.

How many CSMs does it take it change a light bulb?














Three, One to do it, one to tell you how it used to be, and another to tell you how it is. Told to me by my old CSM.

[August]

Originally Posted by Slyguy3129

How many CSMs does it take it change a light bulb?

Trick question. No CSM alive or dead ever changed a light bulb his self, that's what Privates are for!

Originally Posted by August

Trick question. No CSM alive or dead ever changed a light bulb his self, that's what Privates are for!

Truer words have not been spoken.

For the rabbi I suggest a SF branch. If I recall from my days we had a band of guys that were encouraged to grow beards to blend in, I just don't recall which ones. Rangers? Maybe Seal? Don't know bout the Marines as they are all about appearance. Heck they teach girls how to apply makeup without a mirror!