Gaza militants fire dozens of mortars into Israel

[UnderseaLcpl]

Originally Posted by Skybird

For every projectile they fire, take one square-kilometer of Palestinian territory, kick all Palestinians out, and build Israeli settlements there.

They either stop firing - or they don't and by that drive themselves out of the place.

After those two animals massacred that Jewish family two weeks ago, they already did something like that: no big strike was the answer, but the permission to build another one- or twohundred settlement buildings, I think.

I have a better idea. Using agents posing as black-market arms dealers from various nations, we cut Hammas a great deal on what appear to be common mortar shells, but these mortar shells have the firing pin replaced with a contact fuse.

I know, sometimes I'm so brilliant I scare myself.

I always find it funny that when I prod them on "well, what's the solution? genocide on muslims?", everyone immediately denies and calls the accusations of advocating a "final solution" exaggarated, unfair and otherwise just smear tactics. And yet here we have it on record... can I rest my case yet?

Its even easier as he doesn't need prodding, just by going on what he writes you see repeatedly the hatred is at a very deep level and often the posts can be matched word for word to either texts by Hitler or the reichs propoganda ministry, there is also that thing about eugenics and superior culture, a fetish about some philosophers, a belief in a global conpiracy matched with a wish to get rid of different political parties, then there is the desire to remove freedoms to save his vision of civilisation.
So when you add his idea that there shouldn't be any geneva or hague conventions restricting nations and match it with his call for crimes against humanity in the interest of lebensraum......

Well it speaks for itself doesn't it, hung by his own words.

Who is them?

Follow the trail MH, its easy to see.

Good to see you all having fun here.

Would you like to step up and defend someone who espouses a 1930s german ideology? That would be quite fun to watch

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

I have a better idea. Using agents posing as black-market arms dealers from various nations, we cut Hammas a great deal on what appear to be common mortar shells, but these mortar shells have the firing pin replaced with a contact fuse.

I know, sometimes I'm so brilliant I scare myself.

Actually the SEALs did just that in 'nam. They would sneak in to enemy ammo dumps and put randomly in boxes sabotaged 7.62mm rounds that would blow up when fired .

[Gerald]

The bodies of two Palestinian men have been found near the Gaza-Israel border, Palestinian medics report.

The Israeli military has confirmed firing on Saturday on two men who approached the Israeli-enforced no-go zone near the border.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12799772


Note: Update Record,20 March 2011 Last updated at 14:59 GMT

[Rockstar]

Your beloved Egyption freedom fighters are opening the border of Egypt to the Gaza strip where your freedom loving fighters for democracy called Hamas is located. This is great news isn't it? As now your friends in Hamas start shelling Israel in celebration of their new friend Egypt. You will also be glad to know thanks to your version of freedom and democracy Hamas will probably have easier access to arms and ammunition.

Your beloved Egyption freedom fighters are opening the border of Egypt to the Gaza strip where your freedom loving fighters for democracy called Hamas is located. This is great news isn't it? As now your friends in Hamas start shelling Israel in celebration of their new friend Egypt. You will also be glad to know thanks to your version of freedom and democracy Hamas will probably have easier access to arms and ammunition.

Look out, its a Taliban supporter throwing a party for pol pot who is dancing a polka with hitler who was a friend of saddam who was your friend, I hope you are happy with the results of your support and are celebrating as the polka is all your fault.

[Jimbuna]

[Kazuaki Shimazaki II]

Originally Posted by Skybird

For every projectile they fire, take one square-kilometer of Palestinian territory, kick all Palestinians out, and build Israeli settlements there.

While I have some sympathies with your position on Muslims, I must say that if Muslims weren't enemies, this surely would make them so. And if this tactic succeeded, it'll be a utterly brutal act of Might Makes Right.

They either stop firing - or they don't and by that drive themselves out of the place.

Do you mean to say either they "stop firing" and thus accept Israel's enforced and imperialistic occupation of the place, or Israel with the help of the West is right in driving them out by force?

After those two animals massacred that Jewish family two weeks ago, they already did something like that: no big strike was the answer, but the permission to build another one- or twohundred settlement buildings, I think.

As for that Jewish family, I have some sympathy for them but really, the strategic problem is that Israel is a country forced by the Judeo-Christian world on the local inhabitants (despite the Jews' best efforts, the population in that part was still predominantly Palestinian in 1948). It is like trying to build a house in the Antarctic and wondering why you have to keep fighting -80 degree Celcius winds.

And before you say that's no excuse for terrorism, that's true, but the West insisted on maintaining this utterly un-natural (and by usual standards, unfair and imperialist) state of affairs by giving the Israelis a powerful, advanced military, leaving anybody that wishes to oppose them little choice but terrorist tactics...

[Hottentot]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Look out, its a Taliban supporter throwing a party for pol pot who is dancing a polka with hitler who was a friend of saddam who was your friend

You forgot Stalin, who is actually a cloned cucumber with Lenin's brain and mustache attached to it. And in the end it has something to do with he-who-we-shall-not-name-here-lest-we-turn-this-thread-into-another-one-of-those-threads.

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

I have a better idea. Using agents posing as black-market arms dealers from various nations, we cut Hammas a great deal on what appear to be common mortar shells, but these mortar shells have the firing pin replaced with a contact fuse.

I know, sometimes I'm so brilliant I scare myself.

Now that is a great idea! I wonder if they inspect the weapons before they use them? Do they just open the crate, and start firing them? If they don't inspect them, I'll add to your idea, and make those rounds the white phosphorus rounds.

[MH]

Originally Posted by Kazuaki Shimazaki II

And before you say that's no excuse for terrorism, that's true, but the West insisted on maintaining this utterly un-natural (and by usual standards, unfair and imperialist) state of affairs by giving the Israelis a powerful, advanced military, leaving anybody that wishes to oppose them little choice but terrorist tactics...

Yes in know other way around would be much sim[ler and would not take so long.
Or should we just fight each other like Bedouin tribes right?
Oh Israel is imperialistic state.
We are are given everything and don't actually have economy and industry of our own.

Originally Posted by Kazuaki Shimazaki II

.............little choice but terrorist tactics...

Really sorry for that.

[Penguin]

Originally Posted by Kazuaki Shimazaki II

While I have some sympathies with your position on Muslims, I must say that if Muslims weren't enemies, this surely would make them so. And if this tactic succeeded, it'll be a utterly brutal act of Might Makes Right.

You are right about this, sadly this is the only thing you got right in your whole post.

Originally Posted by Kazuaki Shimazaki II

Do you mean to say either they "stop firing" and thus accept Israel's enforced and imperialistic occupation of the place, or Israel with the help of the West is right in driving them out by force?

How do you define occupation? The Israeli Army left Gaza 5 years ago.
A stop of the firing does not necessarily mean that you accept another position - it just shows that you might be able to express your demands by other means.

Originally Posted by Kazuaki Shimazaki II

As for that Jewish family, I have some sympathy for them but really, the strategic problem is that Israel is a country forced by the Judeo-Christian world on the local inhabitants (despite the Jews' best efforts, the population in that part was still predominantly Palestinian in 1948). It is like trying to build a house in the Antarctic and wondering why you have to keep fighting -80 degree Celcius winds.

I would say that a jewish poluation of one third of "Palestine" in '48 is not a small minority. Where did the Palestinians all came from? Or do you mean arab people who lived in the area called Palestine?
I also think that the Jews have a slightly bigger connection to this territory than you have to the Antarctic.

Originally Posted by Kazuaki Shimazaki II

And before you say that's no excuse for terrorism, that's true, but the West insisted on maintaining this utterly un-natural (and by usual standards, unfair and imperialist) state of affairs by giving the Israelis a powerful, advanced military, leaving anybody that wishes to oppose them little choice but terrorist tactics...

A question: how long are you a refugee? 5,6 generations, like the palestinian refugees of today? I am asking, because I am a son of a refugee from East Prussia. Am I also a refugee, as I am only 2nd gen? East Prussia is Poland today. How can most people of today accept this, while others bitch about other partitions made >65 years ago? Much injustices happened there - I don't claim that everything with the partition went golden - but same as the partition of Germany is a result of a war, there was this this little thingy called the 1948 War. The results are known.

No other choice than terrorist tactics? lmao! You make it sound like the people are in a permanent war. Maybe it is in your imagination that you see IDF tanks rolling all day through the territories, like SS divisions through Russia, crushing any Arab they see.
I hate most decisions of my government, and the German military is much more powerfull than my nonexistent one. Maybe I should fire some mortars at Berlin every day to make my position clear - I think I have no other choice...

[Kazuaki Shimazaki II]

Originally Posted by Penguin

How do you define occupation? The Israeli Army left Gaza 5 years ago.

A stop of the firing does not necessarily mean that you accept another position - it just shows that you might be able to express your demands by other means.[/quote]

If I had been taking over 100% of your house for decades, and "5 years ago" I left one of your rooms (and will re-enter on the barest pretence), how happy are you? Do you think you will seriously get me to even leave half your house by "peaceful negotiation" (and forget legal, because for some reason the local judges are pretty much my buds - in fact, they were the turds who gave half your house to me in the first place, and I took the rest of my house when you tried to over-turn that injustice with your own means...)

I would say that a jewish poluation of one third of "Palestine" in '48 is not a small minority. Where did the Palestinians all came from? Or do you mean arab people who lived in the area called Palestine?
I also think that the Jews have a slightly bigger connection to this territory than you have to the Antarctic.

In general, if you have 1/3rd of the population, what will happen is that a state is created based on the 2/3rds, and you will hopefully have a say as a sizable minority. Or at least you get 1/3rd of the land. Not half and half and evolving into almost 100-0.

As for the whole history connection, surely, the guys actually living there at the moment should have priority over a Biblical land claim...

Frankly, I'm sure I'm only the 1 millionth guy to suggest that Israel should have been built in Germany, vacating the Germans if necessary. It may not be the Holy Land, but Germany has a nice climate, the Germans aren't out to kill them by then, and seeing what they had done, it would be some kind of just peanuts.

A question: how long are you a refugee? 5,6 generations, like the palestinian refugees of today? I am asking, because I am a son of a refugee from East Prussia. Am I also a refugee, as I am only 2nd gen? East Prussia is Poland today. How can most people of today accept this, while others bitch about other partitions made >65 years ago? Much injustices happened there - I don't claim that everything with the partition went golden - but same as the partition of Germany is a result of a war, there was this this little thingy called the 1948 War. The results are known.

Not directly comparable, at least in moral terms. East Prussia became Poland after the Germans attacked most of the world and sacked Poland real hard. The 1948 war is triggered by the less than fair partition. One is more or less just punishment for an injustice, one is a consequence of a failed attempt to over-turn an injustice. They are comparable?

No other choice than terrorist tactics? lmao! You make it sound like the people are in a permanent war. Maybe it is in your imagination that you see IDF tanks rolling all day through the territories, like SS divisions through Russia, crushing any Arab they see.
I hate most decisions of my government, and the German military is much more powerfull than my nonexistent one. Maybe I should fire some mortars at Berlin every day to make my position clear - I think I have no other choice...

It may be your only chance (not a big one, but bigger than "peaceful efforts" solely by yourself). I'll also think that if you did have a substantial army, you'll be much less interested in just mortaring Berlin.

[joegrundman]

This is just to clarify a side point - the award of prussia to poland.

It was not awarded to poland as a punishment.

It was because under the terms of the Molotov-Ribbentrop treaty in 1939, Germany took about 2/3rds of Western Poland and the Soviet Union took the 1/3 of E.Poland.

This was in some way an attempt by Germany and the USSR to redress the losses in ww1, whereby the treaty of Brest-Litovsk in 1917 saw Russia lose its Polish territories to Germany, and the final defeat of germany led to poland declaring independence.

But with the USSR victorious in Germany in 1945, the USSR was happy to reinstate Poland, but refused to hand over those parts of E.Poland taken by the USSR in 1939, and that are now incorporated into Belarus and Ukraine. Poland protested its loss of so much territory, and the USSR decided to compensate Poland by removing a slice of E.Germany and giving it to Poland.

it is why so many famous German cities like Stettin and Breslau are not on the map anymore (now Szczecin and Wroclaw)

But E.Prussia specifically is normally used to refer to the pocket of Germany as existed between the wars centered on the city of Koenigsberg, to the north east of poland. This area is currently Russian not Polish. Koenigsberg was renamed Kaliningrad and the area is known as the Kaliningrad Oblast

[MH]

Originally Posted by Kazuaki Shimazaki II

If I had been taking over 100% of your house for decades, and "5 years ago" I left one of your rooms (and will re-enter on the barest pretence), how happy are you? Do you think you will seriously get me to even leave half your house by "peaceful negotiation" (and forget legal, because for some reason the local judges are pretty much my buds - in fact, they were the turds who gave half your house to me in the first place, and I took the rest of my house when you tried to over-turn that injustice with your own means...)
.

So the best thing is to simply destroy the whole building instead to turning it to palace with separate entrances.