Libyan No-Fly Zone res. passed by UN - Page 5

Skybird · 03-18-11, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by joegrundman

and yemen

we will not be siding with the protesters against the House of Saud, not for a long time. even if the protesters are currently in bahrain

The US-SA alliance is possibly the backbone of the modern world structure

Me thinks of bonecancer.

Jimbuna · 03-18-11, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Or someone who has Daffys ear. I don't see Daffy being that easily cowed by the UN, either that or he's not as senile as he looks and sounds.

Joe is right though, it's too late.

I think the danger or risk here is....what are his real intentions/next moves.

Love him or hate him he must be an awesome opponent at chess.

STEED · 03-18-11, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

Who is going to pay for this?

I thought we were broke

The likes of you and I jim, because we and a few others can see it.

We are bust but this coalition has taken a leaf out of Gordon Brown's book...PRINT IT.

STEED · 03-18-11, 10:23 AM

Gaddafi has a odd way saying theres a cease fire and still attacks.

Are! Maybe he left the date and time out by error.

joegrundman · 03-18-11, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Me thinks of bonecancer.

joegrundman · 03-18-11, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

I think the danger or risk here is....what are his real intentions/next moves.

Love him or hate him he must be an awesome opponent at chess.

innit!

joegrundman · 03-18-11, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED

Are!

Are! what?

MaddogK · 03-18-11, 10:55 AM

The U.N.

By the time they come up with a plan, Ghaddafi's gonna die of old age.

Jimbuna · 03-18-11, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED

The likes of you and I jim, because we and a few others can see it.

We are bust but this coalition has taken a leaf out of Gordon Brown's book...PRINT IT.

Had to laugh at his speech in Parliament this morning which was aired on the BBC....he had his two puppets/muppets (Hague and Clegg} sitting behind him on either side nodding their heads in agreement at all the right verbal points.

Better than Brown eating a bogey behind Blairs back I suppose

But only just mind

Bilge_Rat · 03-18-11, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

Love him or hate him he must be an awesome opponent at chess.

you don't last 42 years in power unless you know what you are doing. A lot of articles show that he has been diversifying his power base very wisely over the past decades, which is why he has been able to survive this crisis.

Its a mistake to think he is just crazy... more likely he is crazy like a fox.

Jimbuna · 03-18-11, 11:23 AM

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The word 'ceasefire' wasn't meant for our own ears - it was aimed at certain international agendas. The word is a kind of Totem. He can go on opposing the Rebels but if the West intervenes, Ghadaffi will highlight indignantly that he'd called a ceasefire and the untrustworthy Westerners were intent on breaking it. No matter the logic behind it, there will be plenty of ears elsewhere in the world only too happy to hear that version of events. Under the 'ceasefire' he'll also insist that the Rebels disarm and disband.

Classic. Divide and conquer it is.

The above post was written by a contributor to another forum and whilst these are not my words I see little point in changing any of it since I agree with them in their entirity.

STEED · 03-18-11, 11:39 AM

Gaddafi knows what the West can do...

Flashback.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Libya

haegemon · 03-18-11, 12:24 PM

Update:

France = IN
Canada = IN - six fighter jets
Denmark = IN
Italy = IN - airbases
Norway = IN
Poland = IN - logistic support
Qtar = IN - planes
Spain = IN - bases, planes, ¿fleet?
United Arab Emirates = IN - planes
UK = IN - Tornado and Typhoon planes, two frigates at the Mediterranean
US = IN - Red sea Carrier fleet

Egypt = OUT (instead is shipping weapons to the rebel army)
Germany = OUT
Malta = OUT (but lets use of its airspace)
Tunisia = OUT

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/...dy-for-war.html

Who is going to pay for this?

I thought we were broke

For the armies is like maneuvers, the cost is in fuel and to that Libyans will invite.

Oberon · 03-18-11, 02:32 PM

Jim, whoever wrote that has it spot on. He can play the victim card now, and if his forces are caught still attacking then he'll either blame it on his supporters carrying on the fight ("I cannot control their love for their country.") or claim that the other guys broke the ceasefire first.

I have a feeling that this NFZ will go ahead anyway, ceasefire or not, but it'll make some of the more unsure members of it engage reverse, if not now then soon. I think the German government is getting cold feet already. The French seem to be taking the lead in a lot of it though, I guess Sarkozy needs to flex the old military muscle a bit to distract the French from trouble at home. Do the whole "We are still a respected and critical part of the international community" and all that.

Penguin · 03-18-11, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by haegemon

Germany = OUT

Actually they are thinking about sending AEW&C aircrafts as a support.
The cabinet will talk about it on Wednesday next week, then it will be brought to parliament.
It's actually extremly fast for our government, this is the sad joke at which speed "fast decisions" are made here...

no more blitzkrieg...

03-18-11, 10:23 AM	#64
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Gaddafi has a odd way saying theres a cease fire and still attacks. Are! Maybe he left the date and time out by error. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

03-18-11, 10:55 AM	#68
MaddogK XO Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Chicago, Ill. Posts: 409 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	The U.N. By the time they come up with a plan, Ghaddafi's gonna die of old age. __________________ May fortune favor the foolish Last edited by MaddogK; 03-18-11 at 11:17 AM.

03-18-11, 11:39 AM	#72
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Gaddafi knows what the West can do... Flashback. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Libya __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

03-18-11, 02:32 PM	#74
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Jim, whoever wrote that has it spot on. He can play the victim card now, and if his forces are caught still attacking then he'll either blame it on his supporters carrying on the fight ("I cannot control their love for their country.") or claim that the other guys broke the ceasefire first. I have a feeling that this NFZ will go ahead anyway, ceasefire or not, but it'll make some of the more unsure members of it engage reverse, if not now then soon. I think the German government is getting cold feet already. The French seem to be taking the lead in a lot of it though, I guess Sarkozy needs to flex the old military muscle a bit to distract the French from trouble at home. Do the whole "We are still a respected and critical part of the international community" and all that.