A rant about...... shims

razark · 03-17-11, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

And its outsourced to china?!?! If i had access to a band saw, i could make those pack of shims in less then two F'ing minutes. Don't we make ANYTHING for ourselves anymore? If we can't even make our own F'ing shims, SHIMS, then WTF is this country coming to?

And yet you choose to buy the Chinese shims instead of spending a few extra minutes looking for a locally produced product, or making your own, because it's either cheaper or more convenient.

You're only supporting the system you're complaining about.

GoldenRivet · 03-17-11, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by razark

And yet you choose to buy the Chinese shims instead of spending a few extra minutes looking for a locally produced product, or making your own, because it's either cheaper or more convenient.

You're only supporting the system you're complaining about.

not necessarily true.

It is rare that "made in" labels are checked prior to purchase, this is usually an afterthought.

I'm proud to say that all of my fishing gear is made in the USA though

razark · 03-17-11, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

It is rare that "made in" labels are checked prior to purchase, this is usually an afterthought.

If you feel it's that important, you should be checking it before you buy it.

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

I'm proud to say that all of my fishing gear is made in the USA though

Cool. Some products just aren't made domestically anymore, though.

AVGWarhawk · 03-17-11, 03:00 PM

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I'm proud to say that all of my fishing gear is made in the USA though

From parts made in China.

Ducimus · 03-17-11, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by razark

And yet you choose to buy the Chinese shims instead of spending a few extra minutes looking for a locally produced product, or making your own, because it's either cheaper or more convenient.

Your wrong. I had no choice. There are no other hardware stores near my area, and these were the ONLY shims they had. And apparently you missed the part where i said, "If i had access to a band saw....". Which i don't. I live in an apartment complex. Its not like i have a garage to store shop power tools in.

Oh BTW, the tail gate in those pictures is of my truck, a Ford Ranger. A vehicle that is still made here in the US, amazingly enough.

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

not necessarily true.

It is rare that "made in" labels are checked prior to purchase, this is usually an afterthought.

The first thing i looked at when i picked up those shims, was where they were made. It was the VERY first thiing i looked at. I looked around for a different pack, there weren't any. I walked up to the register cussing a mean streak.

AVGWarhawk · 03-17-11, 03:20 PM

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A vehicle that is still made here in the US, amazingly enough.

From parts made in Canada and Mexico. Hombre

Oh, sorry and from China:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/26/bu...f.3300488.html

Ducimus · 03-17-11, 03:23 PM

F**k.

GoldenRivet · 03-17-11, 03:24 PM

and Korea.

problem identified. The USA has been too busy taking care of crap hole countries that they forgot to take care of themselves.

i'll tell you one thing is for sure... when i am 70 years old, i can't wait to read what the history books say about the United States.

this country is a case study of how not to run a nation.

razark · 03-17-11, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

Your wrong. I had no choice. There are no other hardware stores near my area, and these were the ONLY shims they had. And apparently you missed the part where i said, "If i had access to a band saw....". Which i don't. I live in an apartment complex. Its not like i have a garage to store shop power tools in.

Sorry if that came out the wrong way. My post was not meant to be taken so seriously.

But you do have other choices. You could drive further to find a store that does carry American shims. Find a friend who has some tools. Carve them with a pocket knife. Order them online. Find a way to do the job without them.

There are many ways to get them, the problem is that the other methods will be much more expensive and/or time consuming. You can get the Chinese product cheap, and you can get it now. Which is why Walmart is filled with "Made in China" labels, and the parts of your vehicle (and mine) are made elsewhere. Unless everyone stops buying foreign products and starts doing without or finding domestic substitutes, the foreign producers will always be here.

And I simply don't see too many Americans volunteering to go without or buy more expensive products.

krashkart · 03-17-11, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

From parts made in China.

Gah! Ya stole my thunder!

Ducimus · 03-17-11, 03:34 PM

It occurs to me the same could probably be said of Harley Davidson. I saw some article some months back about them making parts in china or some such crap.

Apparently, NOTHING's made here anymore. Not even a basic item like fricking wooden shim.

krashkart · 03-17-11, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

It occurs to me the same could probably be said of Harley Davidson. I saw some article some months back about them making parts in china or some such crap.

Apparently, NOTHING's made here anymore. Not even a basic item like fricking wooden shim.

Thankfully we do still grow our very own decision-makers.

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

problem identified. The USA has been too busy taking care of crap hole countries that they forgot to take care of themselves.

i'll tell you one thing is for sure... when i am 70 years old, i can't wait to read what the history books say about the United States.

this country is a case study of how not to run a nation.

I can't wait until I can amaze young children with stories of what this country was like when I was their age. Yes kids, there really was a such thing as "Made In America", and it really did mean something.

GoldenRivet · 03-17-11, 03:35 PM

I purchased a Nissan.

For good reason.

it was the most truck i could afford for the money. I tried for an hour to convince the GM dealer to give me the truck i already paid for with my tax dollars but he wouldnt budge.

The comparable ford was underpowered, the comparable toyota was over priced... so, i bought the Nissan...the better dog won the fight

Takeda Shingen · 03-17-11, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

I purchased a Nissan.

For good reason.

it was the most truck i could afford for the money. I tried for an hour to convince the GM dealer to give me the truck i already paid for with my tax dollars but he wouldnt budge.

The comparable ford was underpowered, the comparable toyota was over priced... so, i bought the Nissan...the better dog won the fight

I had a very similar experience with my Honda. It is cheaper and more reliable than the domestic competition. Buying American is good and well, but I need a car that runs.

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GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	I purchased a Nissan. For good reason. it was the most truck i could afford for the money. I tried for an hour to convince the GM dealer to give me the truck i already paid for with my tax dollars but he wouldnt budge. The comparable ford was underpowered, the comparable toyota was over priced... so, i bought the Nissan...the better dog won the fight __________________

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Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	It occurs to me the same could probably be said of Harley Davidson. I saw some article some months back about them making parts in china or some such crap. Apparently, NOTHING's made here anymore. Not even a basic item like fricking wooden shim.