Japanese Tsunami - Page 17

Feuer Frei! · 03-14-11, 11:27 PM

For those who don't know, like me, here is a good link to how a Nuclear Reactor shuts down and what happens in a meltdown:
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...eactor.html?hp

Onkel Neal · 03-15-11, 01:18 AM

Hey buddy, glad to hear you are ok, and your friends. I hope things in your area are better than the news we are seeing.

Neal

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Originally Posted by zaza

My friend who lives in Haranomachi in Minamisouma Fukushima prefecture

He is survive !!!

Today I can contact with him at last.

Now he evacuate to Fukushima city , by car.

He says cause of lack of information,

he could not know whats happen to his hometown and situation now.

McBeck · 03-15-11, 01:26 AM

The bad news just keeps coming....now the spent fuel storage is causing concerns

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2011/03/15...sia/15fuel.xml

Freiwillige · 03-15-11, 01:26 AM

The photo's, the news, the videos just keep getting worse. I have my fingers crossed for that great nation of Japan.

Some of the videos coming out now just made my jaw hit the floor.

Gargamel · 03-15-11, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by McBeck

The bad news just keeps coming....now the spent fuel storage is causing concerns

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2011/03/15...sia/15fuel.xml

That's not good.

The reactors may hold up, but the leftovers, placed in a glorified swimming pool, will mess it all up.

It's like God is some street magician, look at my right hand over her look over here over here over here... then blammo my left explodes!

Gargamel · 03-15-11, 02:15 AM

Nice front page Neal.

DarkFish · 03-15-11, 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Hey buddy, glad to hear you are ok, and your friends. I hope things in your area are better than the news we are seeing.

Neal

Don't forget Japan is a large country

I've been in Japan for the last 3 weeks (was in Kyoto at the time of the earthquake, didn't feel it) and I haven't seen any destruction anywhere. Probably like 90% of Japan is experiencing no problems caused by the earthquake/tsunami. At least the area around Kyoto/Osaka is nothing like the news you are seeing.

But indeed, good to hear you and your friend are OK zaza!

Jimbuna · 03-15-11, 05:44 AM

What I'm seeing/learning from BBC and Sky News is that they have 24 hours at most to avoid one helluva nuclear disaster....fingers crossed for a successful and safe outcome.

papa_smurf · 03-15-11, 05:44 AM

From BBC's Envrioment correspondent, Richard Black:

Quote:

It appears that for the first time, the containment system around one of the Fukushima Daiichi reactors has been breached.
Officials have referred to a possible crack in the suppression chamber of reactor 2 - a large doughnut-shaped structure below the reactor housing. That would allow steam, containing radioactive substances, to escape continuously.
This is the most likely source of the high radioactivity readings seen near the site. Another possible source is the fire in reactor 4 building - believed to have started when a pool storing old fuel rods dried up.
The readings at the site rose beyond safe limits - 400 millisieverts per hour (mSv/hr), when the average person's exposure is 3mSv in a year.
A key question is whether this is just a transient spike, which might be expected if number 2 is the source, or whether the high levels are sustained.
In the meantime, the key task for workers at the plant remains to get enough water into the reactors - and, now, into the spent fuel pools - with the poor resources at their disposal.

Lets hope a major nuclear disaster is avioded, as this latest incident in the spent fuel rods pool is really going to stretch already limited resources.

(Would the fuel rods in the spent rods pool actually burn through if they were not kept cooled?)

Skybird · 03-15-11, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Gargamel

Nice front page Neal.

^2

I'm happy that my old teacher and mentor does not witness this, he was Japanese and already has had a troubled life even without this.

Skybird · 03-15-11, 06:20 AM

Reported: there was or still is a fire in Fukushima's reactor 4.

4 of 6 in big troubles now. Radiation rising.

Edit: or have they gotten the numbering wrong and it is the one of last night?

Freiwillige · 03-15-11, 06:30 AM

The spent fuel rods pool is a non issue from what I read because it would take a long time to boil away (Weeks) and they could refill it with fire hoses if needed, That is (If) the pool is not damaged.

keltos01 · 03-15-11, 06:45 AM

Rubenandthejets is near Tokyo Bay.

I guess everyone will be affected one way or another, this is a small country..

I offer my sympathies to the japanese people.

keltos

Skybird · 03-15-11, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by keltos01

Rubenandthejets is near Tokyo Bay.

He better starts running. Radiation at Fukushima is now 100 times as high as normal, and wind has turned south. In Tokyo, radiation 7 times higher than normal has been measured by German experts. The Japanese Tepco company says radiation is "increasing dramatically", they are being reported to have warned the government of meltdown being imminent and unlikely to be prevented in time.

I fear they are loosing it.

Freiwillige · 03-15-11, 08:13 AM

I just read that the president of Japan ordered Tepco not to remove anymore workers from the plant. I am afraid that this is spiraling out of control quickly.

On a positive note, I noticed there is really no looting or rioting or worse. Kudo's to the Japanese people for keeping their wits about them in this emergency situation.

03-14-11, 11:27 PM	#241
Feuer Frei! Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Valhalla Posts: 5,295 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 17	For those who don't know, like me, here is a good link to how a Nuclear Reactor shuts down and what happens in a meltdown: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...eactor.html?hp __________________ "History is the lies that the victors agree on"- Napoleon LINK TO MY SH 3 MODS

03-15-11, 01:26 AM	#243
McBeck Admiral Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,027 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	The bad news just keeps coming....now the spent fuel storage is causing concerns http://mobile.nytimes.com/2011/03/15...sia/15fuel.xml __________________ "I like subcommanders...they dont have time for bull**!" Proud member of the Subsim army of zombies Becks website

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Gargamel Lucky Sailor Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Rome Posts: 4,273 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	Nice front page Neal. __________________ Luck is a residue of Design.

03-15-11, 05:44 AM	#248
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,543 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	What I'm seeing/learning from BBC and Sky News is that they have 24 hours at most to avoid one helluva nuclear disaster....fingers crossed for a successful and safe outcome. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

03-15-11, 06:20 AM	#251
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,829 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Reported: there was or still is a fire in Fukushima's reactor 4. 4 of 6 in big troubles now. Radiation rising. Edit: or have they gotten the numbering wrong and it is the one of last night? __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

03-15-11, 01:26 AM	#244
Freiwillige The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phx. Az Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	The photo's, the news, the videos just keep getting worse. I have my fingers crossed for that great nation of Japan. Some of the videos coming out now just made my jaw hit the floor.

03-15-11, 06:30 AM	#252
Freiwillige The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phx. Az Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	The spent fuel rods pool is a non issue from what I read because it would take a long time to boil away (Weeks) and they could refill it with fire hoses if needed, That is (If) the pool is not damaged.

03-15-11, 06:45 AM	#253
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	Rubenandthejets is near Tokyo Bay. I guess everyone will be affected one way or another, this is a small country.. I offer my sympathies to the japanese people. keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

03-15-11, 08:13 AM	#255
Freiwillige The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phx. Az Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	I just read that the president of Japan ordered Tepco not to remove anymore workers from the plant. I am afraid that this is spiraling out of control quickly. On a positive note, I noticed there is really no looting or rioting or worse. Kudo's to the Japanese people for keeping their wits about them in this emergency situation.