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Old 03-14-11, 01:25 PM   #1
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Or we can just go the Democrat way like out here in California where taxes are high, and businesses are leaving in droves. Productive people are leaving in droves. And deficits are skyrocketing. No thanks guys. Your answers here are completely fallacious through real world application. Higher taxes, and more government spending doesn't lead you to heaven. That's real world here.....not Democrat party talking points.
Is the only alternative you can consider is the opposite extreme?

I don't think anyone is advocating that we use Schwarzenegger as a model of how to run a state.

We need to stop thinking in terms of extremes and start thinking in terms of moderation, balance, compromise.
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Old 03-14-11, 02:29 PM   #2
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or just think in terms of sanity. Where is it a good idea to tax somebody working for 22,000 a year $600.00 more a year, and raid the elderly, but give corporations break? Aren't we all supposed to pitch in?
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Old 03-14-11, 02:38 PM   #3
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or just think in terms of sanity. Where is it a good idea to tax somebody working for 22,000 a year $600.00 more a year, and raid the elderly, but give corporations break? Aren't we all supposed to pitch in?
BS. At our state level and the fed, anybody making 22,000 has zero income tax liability at all. That is ZERO. They get it all back. I believe that income also qualifies you for the EITC.

Now of course in the Democrat state of California, this same person has to pay 8.75% sales tax on every purchase made. That is 8.75% sales tax and the state is still in massive deficits. That hurts every consumer..even poor ones. I guess the Democrats here don't care about the little guy after all.
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Old 03-14-11, 02:33 PM   #4
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Is the only alternative you can consider is the opposite extreme?

I don't think anyone is advocating that we use Schwarzenegger as a model of how to run a state.

We need to stop thinking in terms of extremes and start thinking in terms of moderation, balance, compromise.
Nobody is speaking of extremes here. I'm only talking about running a state using good economic sense. You know, spurring incentives to conduct business investment and activity, and not punishing business through excessive taxation. That usually drives businesses to leave as in California. My own company's main operations moved to a low tax state, and cited that as the primary reason. Also, fostering a climate of consumer confidence, with fair and reasonable taxation for consumers, which of course requires government living within it's means, and not overreaching into places that it shouldn't.

If that's extreme to you....I'm not sure what to say. The whole notion that nirvana is created through reckless government spending, excessive taxation, and entitlements to forever is ludicrous. California is going bust because the Democrats here believe just that. And it just plain doesn't work.
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well tip of the ol' hat to your state. but not here.

http://www.milhs.org/wp-content/uplo...-EITC-2-11.pdf
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well tip of the ol' hat to your state. but not here.

http://www.milhs.org/wp-content/uplo...-EITC-2-11.pdf
Well it looks like your state certainly over-reaches as well. I'm not for taking from the elderly on fixed incomes, but any state that is not competing to keep costs low for businesses/corporations is shooting themselves in the foot. If you want jobs for your citizens, and a stable tax base that is. As my own company has proven to me, they will vote with their feet to contain costs if you choose to create an environment that is prohibitively expensive through excessive taxes, burdensome regulation, or out of control costs in the public sector.
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