[TRY] If you have a dumb hydrophone operator . - Page 2

kalijav · 03-02-11, 05:17 AM

So then the issue most likely comes from MO then ?

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stoianm · 03-02-11, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by kalijav

So then the issue most likely comes from MO then ?

(You're fast to answer

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nope... i do not know from where you have this issue... but sure not from MO... post your mod list and maybe i will have an ideea

kalijav · 03-02-11, 05:27 AM

Well, i have:
MO (with patch 2, removed the steelvikings shadows, I'm using Arclight_MRP)
TDW depth Keeping problem (with patch also)
New ui v6.4.0 test
Sobers realistic hydrophone operator
French shortcuts

And that's it.

stoianm · 03-02-11, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by kalijav

Well, i have:
MO (with patch 2, removed the steelvikings shadows, I'm using Arclight_MRP)
TDW depth Keeping problem (with patch also)
New ui v6.4.0 test
Sobers realistic hydrophone operator
French shortcuts

And that's it.

Should be ok then...
what i do not remember is if you use the old hydro if he is working at surface with MO

- i am sure that the new one is working only at depth with MO

i will test that and came back with an clear solution (i hope)

kalijav · 03-02-11, 05:36 AM

I don't know that either, and I can't find the list of included mods anymore.
Thanks again !

stoianm · 03-02-11, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by kalijav

I don't know that either, and I can't find the list of included mods anymore.
Thanks again !

I am speaking about the hydro from the game (not for the mod)... you know when you want to upgrade your uboat in bunker... there is 2 types of hydro

kalijav · 03-02-11, 05:48 AM

oh ok, well i just started the campaign (again) and I have only basic stuff, it's my first patrol.

I don't know if this changes with the 2nd one you get.

stoianm · 03-02-11, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by kalijav

oh ok, well i just started the campaign (again) and I have only basic stuff, it's my first patrol.

I don't know if this changes with the 2nd one you get.

With the MO the hydro work as is supose too:

If you use this type of hydro thhen you will can use hydro at surface and submerged:

If you upgrade at this type of hydro then you can use your hydro only submerged

et voilla maintenant tout est ok

(was an false alarme

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Magic1111 · 03-02-11, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by stoianm

the mods are perfectly compatible

Yes, agree this ! Both MODs work perfect together....!

kalijav · 03-02-11, 07:01 AM

Awesome ! I didn't know there was a difference

Thank you very much for checking it out

Jaguar · 03-02-11, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

He is correct. In stock your hydrophone operator will not detect a contact until that contact is >= 0.25 * contact's max speed. With IRAI it's 0.075 * contact's max speed.

So this is why after I installed the wonderfull/marvelous/glorious IRAI I´ve been picking more contacts than my eels and skills can handle!

raymond6751 · 03-09-11, 04:44 AM

I was getting a report, at periscope depth, of an enemy warship at close range bearing 16 degrees.

Scoped and found empty seas. Did F2 full look around and totally empty seas.

THE_MASK · 03-09-11, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by raymond6751

I was getting a report, at periscope depth, of an enemy warship at close range bearing 16 degrees.

Scoped and found empty seas. Did F2 full look around and totally empty seas.

Enemy submarine

raymond6751 · 03-11-11, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by sober

Enemy submarine

Ah hah! Well that's my first sub contact ever. Thanks.

Mouftic · 03-11-11, 06:33 PM

Being a sonar operator for more than 7 years with advance detection courses, it is actually possible to detect contact more than 80 miles away. Has you may not know, sound does not travel in straight lines like a radar. It actually travel in waves, follows currents, bounces off bottom... etc I once tracked an LA class submarine 80 miles away in a convergence zone (CZ). The contact just passes throught the CZ which was about 1 mile long (wide) and then abrupted out. I dont really know what was the capabilities of the passive sonar were at the time, but getting contacts 37km away in straight line seems a bit exagerated, but it would be too complicated I guess to make real models of the water collumn since it changes everywhere around the world and also depends on seasons and more...

None the less, good job on the mod, but I dont think we will ever achieve real life water properties and proper sound propagation.

Also, I dont know why we cant identify the contacts (class of ships) on the passive sonar? Just by listening, i can give you the number of blades, shafts and rpm. This is a pretty good indication of the ships, at least down to a type (destroyer, BS, AC, Tanker....)

03-09-11, 04:44 AM	#27
raymond6751 Admirable Mike Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,338 Downloads: 421 Uploads: 0	problem I was getting a report, at periscope depth, of an enemy warship at close range bearing 16 degrees. Scoped and found empty seas. Did F2 full look around and totally empty seas. __________________ Game Designer: Close The Atlantic - World War Three https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/...orld-war-three

03-11-11, 06:33 PM	#30
Mouftic Mate Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 59 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	Being a sonar operator for more than 7 years with advance detection courses, it is actually possible to detect contact more than 80 miles away. Has you may not know, sound does not travel in straight lines like a radar. It actually travel in waves, follows currents, bounces off bottom... etc I once tracked an LA class submarine 80 miles away in a convergence zone (CZ). The contact just passes throught the CZ which was about 1 mile long (wide) and then abrupted out. I dont really know what was the capabilities of the passive sonar were at the time, but getting contacts 37km away in straight line seems a bit exagerated, but it would be too complicated I guess to make real models of the water collumn since it changes everywhere around the world and also depends on seasons and more... None the less, good job on the mod, but I dont think we will ever achieve real life water properties and proper sound propagation. Also, I dont know why we cant identify the contacts (class of ships) on the passive sonar? Just by listening, i can give you the number of blades, shafts and rpm. This is a pretty good indication of the ships, at least down to a type (destroyer, BS, AC, Tanker....) Last edited by Mouftic; 03-12-11 at 01:09 PM.

03-02-11, 05:17 AM	#16
kalijav Seaman Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 37 Downloads: 117 Uploads: 0	So then the issue most likely comes from MO then ? (You're fast to answer )

03-02-11, 05:27 AM	#18
kalijav Seaman Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 37 Downloads: 117 Uploads: 0	Well, i have: MO (with patch 2, removed the steelvikings shadows, I'm using Arclight_MRP) TDW depth Keeping problem (with patch also) New ui v6.4.0 test Sobers realistic hydrophone operator French shortcuts And that's it.

03-02-11, 05:36 AM	#20
kalijav Seaman Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 37 Downloads: 117 Uploads: 0	I don't know that either, and I can't find the list of included mods anymore. Thanks again !

03-02-11, 05:48 AM	#22
kalijav Seaman Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 37 Downloads: 117 Uploads: 0	oh ok, well i just started the campaign (again) and I have only basic stuff, it's my first patrol. I don't know if this changes with the 2nd one you get.

03-02-11, 07:01 AM	#25
kalijav Seaman Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 37 Downloads: 117 Uploads: 0	Awesome ! I didn't know there was a difference Thank you very much for checking it out