You see, if you want to plagiarize, you need to plagiarize with style!

Platapus · 03-08-11, 08:42 AM

The Frau teaches a community college. She tells me horror stories about the rampant plagiarizing that goes on.

She had this one student who had a hard time communicating in the written language. In reading her stuff, I honestly thought she had written it in a foreign language and then put it through a machine translation program. But no, the way she wrote is the way she spoke.

Then the student turned in a 15 page paper. It was at the quality of writing that I would have going for my PhD.

It took The Frau about 30 minutes to find the website where the student purchased the paper

It never occurred to me, but there are websites where you can enter the name of your college, the name/number of the class you are taking and download all the assignments. WTF?

What these stupid kids don't understand is that with the advent of the Internet Tubes, it is easier to plagiarize, but it is also far easier to find plagiarizing too.

Well now that this kid was caught buying a paper, I assumed they would fail the class or better yet be expelled right?

Buzz! Wrong answer

This kid who was caught buying a paper and submitting it as her own work was counseled. Counseled. As in being talked to.

She got a zero for this paper but was allowed to continue in the class after she had been caught cheating!!!!!

This is what is messed up in the schools. Kids are caught cheating and there is no consequence.

We. Are. Teaching. Kids. That. It. Is. Ok. To. Cheat. That they can cheat and if caught can continue on.

Put this near the top if the list of Things I just don't understand.

My boss used to be a college instructor. At his college, there was this up policy: If a Freshman failed a class, the class and the grade was nor recorded on the student record and the Freshman could retake the class.

I could see the use of this policy in cases of academic deficiency, but he said that in reality it gave all the Freshmen a free ride for cheating. If caught, they could retake the class and nothing would be on their records.....

Unless the Freshmen took the class from my boss. When (not if) he caught a Freshmen cheating or plagiarizing, he would not fail them, but would give them a D.

This did stay on their record and did not allow them to retake the class.

I love my boss. He can be such a dick.

Growler · 03-08-11, 12:27 PM

Oh, brother, Plat, you said a mouthful.

It's just about criminal how much students get away with; it's even sadder when you think that, get away with it or not, these are the people who, upon graduating, will be eligible for the better, higher-paying jobs, just because they have that degree. *sigh*

My aunt is a college nursing instructor for grad school students. She had one of her students submit a new paper for her class that - (you're gonna love this; your Frau will, too) - included a bibliography/reference list that already had comments and remarks from the instructor who'd graded that same paper for another student. The instructor? Yeah. My aunt.

03-08-11, 08:42 AM	#1
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,396 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	The Frau teaches a community college. She tells me horror stories about the rampant plagiarizing that goes on. She had this one student who had a hard time communicating in the written language. In reading her stuff, I honestly thought she had written it in a foreign language and then put it through a machine translation program. But no, the way she wrote is the way she spoke. Then the student turned in a 15 page paper. It was at the quality of writing that I would have going for my PhD. It took The Frau about 30 minutes to find the website where the student purchased the paper It never occurred to me, but there are websites where you can enter the name of your college, the name/number of the class you are taking and download all the assignments. WTF? What these stupid kids don't understand is that with the advent of the Internet Tubes, it is easier to plagiarize, but it is also far easier to find plagiarizing too. Well now that this kid was caught buying a paper, I assumed they would fail the class or better yet be expelled right? Buzz! Wrong answer This kid who was caught buying a paper and submitting it as her own work was counseled. Counseled. As in being talked to. She got a zero for this paper but was allowed to continue in the class after she had been caught cheating!!!!! This is what is messed up in the schools. Kids are caught cheating and there is no consequence. We. Are. Teaching. Kids. That. It. Is. Ok. To. Cheat. That they can cheat and if caught can continue on. Put this near the top if the list of Things I just don't understand. My boss used to be a college instructor. At his college, there was this up policy: If a Freshman failed a class, the class and the grade was nor recorded on the student record and the Freshman could retake the class. I could see the use of this policy in cases of academic deficiency, but he said that in reality it gave all the Freshmen a free ride for cheating. If caught, they could retake the class and nothing would be on their records..... Unless the Freshmen took the class from my boss. When (not if) he caught a Freshmen cheating or plagiarizing, he would not fail them, but would give them a D. This did stay on their record and did not allow them to retake the class. I love my boss. He can be such a dick. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

03-08-11, 12:27 PM	#2
Growler A long way from the sea Join Date: May 2005 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,913 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	Oh, brother, Plat, you said a mouthful. It's just about criminal how much students get away with; it's even sadder when you think that, get away with it or not, these are the people who, upon graduating, will be eligible for the better, higher-paying jobs, just because they have that degree. sigh My aunt is a college nursing instructor for grad school students. She had one of her students submit a new paper for her class that - (you're gonna love this; your Frau will, too) - included a bibliography/reference list that already had comments and remarks from the instructor who'd graded that same paper for another student. The instructor? Yeah. My aunt. __________________ At Fiddler’s Green, where seamen true When here they’ve done their duty The bowl of grog shall still renew And pledge to love and beauty.