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Old 03-04-11, 09:19 PM   #1
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Armistead - first off let me applaud you for actually reading the laws. Few people in NC know that the state allows open carry. Unfortunately, many LE officers don't know it - or choose to ignore it in their misguided attempts to "get guns off the streets". They too often make use of the "going armed to the terror of the public" as an excuse to block legal open carry.

If you ever get told that your "going armed to the terror of the public", ask the office when the 911 call came in. Without a civilian calling in terror - or a civilian willing to testify that they went to a LE officer in person, they lose the ability to make the claim. Yes, they don't like when you point that out either......

Now, depending on what you carry you may or may not want a holster in a specific location. I personally prefer to carry my Makarov in a pancake holster made by Passport for those times WHEN I carry. Because of its design, it makes an excellent hip/back holster, though it can easily be moved to the shoulder.

However, since your in NC, remember what the standards are for open carry here. In many places, having the firearm "reasonably visible" means you could have it outside a t-shirt, but covered by an open hawiian shirt. In NC however, that won't fly. It really needs to be plainly visible at all times - so I'd advise against a ankle holster unless your going out in shorts - and no offense, but that would look tacky.

If your going to carry and want recommendations on what to carry in, give some specifics about the firearm you choose to carry with you.
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Old 03-04-11, 11:08 PM   #2
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Oh, I WISH. Here in Maryland they just don't give concealed weapons permits, essentially. They exist, they just aren't given out!!

I don't think I'd want to live in some parts of Baltimore or perhaps Prince George's County unless I could carry a firearm.
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Old 03-05-11, 07:44 AM   #3
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Armistead - first off let me applaud you for actually reading the laws. Few people in NC know that the state allows open carry. Unfortunately, many LE officers don't know it - or choose to ignore it in their misguided attempts to "get guns off the streets". They too often make use of the "going armed to the terror of the public" as an excuse to block legal open carry.

If you ever get told that your "going armed to the terror of the public", ask the office when the 911 call came in. Without a civilian calling in terror - or a civilian willing to testify that they went to a LE officer in person, they lose the ability to make the claim. Yes, they don't like when you point that out either......

Now, depending on what you carry you may or may not want a holster in a specific location. I personally prefer to carry my Makarov in a pancake holster made by Passport for those times WHEN I carry. Because of its design, it makes an excellent hip/back holster, though it can easily be moved to the shoulder.

However, since your in NC, remember what the standards are for open carry here. In many places, having the firearm "reasonably visible" means you could have it outside a t-shirt, but covered by an open hawiian shirt. In NC however, that won't fly. It really needs to be plainly visible at all times - so I'd advise against a ankle holster unless your going out in shorts - and no offense, but that would look tacky.

If your going to carry and want recommendations on what to carry in, give some specifics about the firearm you choose to carry with you.
Yep, people that open carry often get the law called on them. Not long ago two men went open carry into a gas store, clerk called and they were arrested by a rookie cop. Course they got off and an apology and last I heard one was filing a lawsuit..

No, I wouldn't conceal with an ankle unless I had a permit. Pancakes are comfortable and a good way to carry, I was thinking along those lines.

I don't know if the laws have changed since last I got one. Many businesses have no guns allowed signs. As I understand, you can ignore those signs as they hold no legal status, other than if the owner catches you he could ask you to vacate his property. If you refused that you could be charged armed trepass. Obvious that doesn't apply to the many gov/pub listed properties where you can't carry regardless.

I'll be looking at small guns, course have a few SNS, one 25, other 32, but probably too low of a caliber to be worth it, so looking to trade my 45 for a small 9

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Old 03-05-11, 08:14 AM   #4
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Anyone considering carrying should read

In the Gravest Extreme: The Role of the Firearm in Personal Protection

by Massad F. Ayoob

Or any of his other books on the "realities" of self defense. This man knows of which he speaks.
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Old 03-05-11, 12:03 PM   #5
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Illinois does not permit carry at all, and this is not likely to change.
In fact, the attorney general is planning to make public the names of all FOID card holders. A Firearms Owner IDentification card is needed to merely posses a firearm in this state.
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Old 03-05-11, 12:21 PM   #6
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On the other hand you could move to Vermont, Alaska or Arizona. Those states allow concealed carry with no permit required.
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Nope, don't own (Or can afford a gun), plus I don't like guns. Not to mention that I can't aim well unless I aim with my left eye, in which case its uncomfortable for me.

The only gun I would ever want is a Musket, but thats cause of my interest in history.
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so looking to trade my 45 for a small 9
Kahr PM 9 One of the smallest narrowest and lightest 9s you can carry and still have a practical hand gun. Since you will be carrying it far more than using it (hopefully never), go for a piece that is easy and comfortable to carry.
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Old 03-07-11, 07:56 PM   #9
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I thought about it. It seems like too much of a hassel.
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Old 03-07-11, 08:24 PM   #10
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If I carry, I open carry.
More of a deterent and easier to draw.
I also use low velocity rounds.
I want to punch through a Chest, not a wall.
And any need to fire is going to be very close range anyway.
Like nearly eye to eye.
Dropping someone at 10 yards would get you 10 years in most States.
Dropping someone at 5 feet gets you a get out of jail free card most times.

My home has been invaded in the past.
My StepSon and his friend suffered a very bad beating.
(The Wife and I were in Hawaii at the time)

The Guys were caught and convicted and spent 2+ years in the Pen.
I spoke at thier sentence hearing.

I told the Court that should they ever so much as set a foot on my property when they get out?
I would take the greatest pleasure in putting a bullet in thier heads.
And if they ever messed with my family when they got out?
I would hunt them down and make them vanish!
I also told that same Court that my property was now a Free Fire zone.
I would shoot first and worry about things latter.
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Kahr PM 9 One of the smallest narrowest and lightest 9s you can carry and still have a practical hand gun. Since you will be carrying it far more than using it (hopefully never), go for a piece that is easy and comfortable to carry.
Like I said, after the first few weeks I seldom carried it, then maybe only on trips. The one dang time I really could've used it, I didn't have it...I'm a dang good shot, but don't know how I would react if I had to shoot at someone, moreso if they're shooting back, probably shoot my foot off.
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Old 03-07-11, 08:29 PM   #12
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If you truly intend to protect yourself with a Firearm?
You must train with it.
Reaction should be a natural thing.
I have been fired at and the training saved my life more then once.
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Arm, I have my concealed permit.I carry a Glock 36 .45 ACP slim sub compact, single stack mag, very easy to conceal, no hassle, nice punch, six round clip.Great if you're looking for personal defense.

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