Pope Benedict: Jewish people not guilty for Jesus death

[Platapus]

So the pope comes out and has to make a declaration that one can't hold an entire worlds population of a specific religious group responsible over the years, for what a small number did a long time ago?

Wow, glad he is on the job.

Looks like they picked the right man for the job.

[razark]

Originally Posted by Platapus

So the pope comes out and has to make a declaration that one can't hold an entire worlds population of a specific religious group responsible over the years, for what a small number did a long time ago?

Wow, glad he is on the job.

Looks like they picked the right man for the job.

Now, it's not quite like that. He's just restating the long held position the church has held since... 1965.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Platapus

So the pope comes out and has to make a declaration that one can't hold an entire worlds population of a specific religious group responsible over the years, for what a small number did a long time ago?

That's not what his old boss said...

[Herr-Berbunch]

Originally Posted by Oberon

That's not what his old boss said...

[UnderseaLcpl]

How considerate of the embodiment of God's Will on Earth to offer the same forgiveness that the Son of God demonstrated. Throw in communion and the same amount of forgiveness for all those who accept the Lord Jesus Christ as their saviour and we might just end up with Protestants.

[Castout]

Embodiment of God's will on earth? That's blasphemy in my view and I'm Catholic . Maybe I'm a bad Catholic but who cares as I don't believe the highest people in the Catholic church hierarchy have any personal knowledge of God at all. You see if you spend too much time dwelling in religious life high hierarchy without actually knowing God personally you'd fool yourself that nobody else knew God either and over time that faith would weaken or be lost and changed to merely humanitarian goals liberally interpreted by their own free will and mind which means they would be vulnerable to abuse and corruption.


Man ----x---- God, then he busies himself with

Man---------- himself or

Man----------other people


When man doesn't know God personally in his life man will busy himself with himself and or other people. How could he tell that God is really real by only reading a book? If God is really a living God which mean He exists a believer MUST expect to know God whom he claim to worship and follow otherwise he's not really seeking or his living is not fit to be considered worthy of knowing God . Because the book is not just a book but a living word of God(But
it's not encyclopedia well it's encyclopedia for what can't be reached by men).

Of course nobody would know God like knowing another person but even what little is personally known would change a man foundation KNOWING that God is there and bring him comfort even in difficult times. It doesn't mean faith is not required even on the contrary because nobody knows God like knowing another person.

[Castout]

So who's actually guilty for Jesus death then?

I vouch for the Swedish!

[seaniam81]

Originally Posted by Castout

So who's actually guilty for Jesus death then?

I Vote those pesky Druids. You can never trust those tree huggers.

[UnderseaLcpl]

Originally Posted by Castout

Embodiment of God's will on earth? That's blasphemy in my view and I'm Catholic .

You have my apologies, then, I wouldn't know any better since I'm a protestant blasphemer

Maybe I'm a bad Catholic but who cares as I don't believe the highest people in the Catholic church hierarchy have any personal knowledge of God at all.

Really? You'd make an excellent protestant, then. It's a sweet deal. You don't have to swear allegiance to anyone other than God Himself and His Son, our Saviour. You also get to partake in communion with no strings attached and the worship services are a lot better. You don't even have to confess your sins or say prayers to express your penitence!

The only downsides are that we don't have rebellious Catholic schoolgirls dressed in nice uniforms that God Himself must have designed and we're expected to actually do stuff. It's not all bad, though. Helping a homeless person build a house or making and delivering dinner to an incapacitated senior citizen is quite rewarding.

[Castout]

Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

You have my apologies, then, I wouldn't know any better since I'm a protestant blasphemer


Really? You'd make an excellent protestant, then. It's a sweet deal. You don't have to swear allegiance to anyone other than God Himself and His Son, our Saviour. You also get to partake in communion with no strings attached and the worship services are a lot better. You don't even have to confess your sins or say prayers to express your penitence!

The only downsides are that we don't have rebellious Catholic schoolgirls dressed in nice uniforms that God Himself must have designed and we're expected to actually do stuff. It's not all bad, though. Helping a homeless person build a house or making and delivering dinner to an incapacitated senior citizen is quite rewarding.

Well I consider myself to have never owed allegiance to any man but my own conscience and to God.

Though technically I'm a Catholic I consider myself simply as a Christian.
In my 31 year of life and some of the worst things a man have to go through not a single Catholic would stand up for me . . . .If it wasn't because of God I'd have given up my faith completely and became a broken man in spirit and mind.

Religion saves no one. It's merely a feel good ritual meant to fill man's inability to reach and understand and know the God whom he wishes to worship.

Men need God to be saved. No one is perfect and even no one is worthy of living forever in abundance or to receive eternal power. All is in the grace. Men cannot save himself nor his religion could offer him salvation. It's his relationship with God that would save him. And that doesn't depend on anyone but God's initiative and the man's own response to it.

I've come to the realization that even if I make it to be acceptable in God's presence, it will not because of me at all. Not because I'm such a bad person but I've realized that I'm actually completely absolutely nothing and who will not even stand there in the first place if it wasn't because of God's own initiative and grace.

This God whose face shines beyond all light, who changes heart, who has the power to give the ultimate peace which brings joy and change man's heart to be alive and ever gentle, this God who answers prayer, whose spirit sounded like a great mighty wind to those who it came to, this God who knows the whisper of our every thought who never leave us or go to sleep or rest even when we are in death, who is able to reveal secrets and see into the hearts of men and nations, whose command even nature would obey, who actually make plans before carrying them out, who actually prefer us being clean physically and make us so before making an encounter or when His spirit lives in heart of His people, who love people who do not know Him and are unworthy, who has the power to forgive sins and who gives forgiveness even without being asked!

All those things would only be possible if He was indeed the Creator of all things whose mark of authority resides in every thing that has been created whose power defined by His Holiness, the scepter of His rule.

I feel lucky for having known such a God not as a God who only exists in a book but who let His believer to know the truth in it. Truly the living God.

[Armistead]

Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

You have my apologies, then, I wouldn't know any better since I'm a protestant blasphemer


Really? You'd make an excellent protestant, then. It's a sweet deal. You don't have to swear allegiance to anyone other than God Himself and His Son, our Saviour. You also get to partake in communion with no strings attached and the worship services are a lot better. You don't even have to confess your sins or say prayers to express your penitence!

The only downsides are that we don't have rebellious Catholic schoolgirls dressed in nice uniforms that God Himself must have designed and we're expected to actually do stuff. It's not all bad, though. Helping a homeless person build a house or making and delivering dinner to an incapacitated senior citizen is quite rewarding.

Glad some christians help people, seems to me "let's pray" has become code for "I don't have to do nothing." or "I'll put it in God's hands."..code for I don't have to use my hands. If Christians actually got involved in all those things they pray about something might get done.

Again, the bible teaches Christ was ordained to die by God to start with, so who would that make responsible. I don't take Gen: as literal, but regardless looks like God put all the pieces in place for man to fall like it or not.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Oberon

That's not what his old boss said...

LOL