[REL] Ship damage from fires - Page 2

Nisgeis · 03-04-11, 04:45 PM

So does this actually work at all? All reports seems to indicate not?

03-05-11, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

As the mod was made with SH5 damage model in mind the SH4 damage model and ship available HPs will most likely be completely different. Thus it's quite possible that the SH4 version needs to be tweaked for SH4. I don't play SH4 (only SH5) so someone would need to do this

This makes me wonder, how exactly DOES the sh5 damage model work?? Just out of pure curiosity

TheDarkWraith · 03-05-11, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by USNSRCaseySmith

This makes me wonder, how exactly DOES the sh5 damage model work?? Just out of pure curiosity

The damage model (code wise) is the same for all versions of Silent Hunter. What is different are the .zon files for each ship and the Zones.cfg file that defines the zones for each game. This Zones.cfg file is the major player in the damage model for the game. Each ship builds it's damage model from that file.

AVGWarhawk · 03-06-11, 01:44 PM

Very nice! Long missing damage fire. Nice work!

Char · 03-06-11, 07:15 PM

After doing some more testing,I've found this mod to only be effective if the target is at extremely low health or already sinking.I've seen increased amounts of ships splitting in half and an increase in the amount of secondary explosions on Tankers,Destroyers,and Cruisers.
I've also seen that while fires are burning,Ships WILL flood and sink at a slightly quicker pace.But were talking a maximum of only 10 to 15 seconds quicker than usual.

Perhaps increasing the rate the HP burns off would show more results?

On a Side note HOW MUCH HP does this mod actually burn off per second and how much Total HP do most mid-sized tankers have?

Anthony W. · 04-23-11, 07:58 PM

This mod seems to make my torpedoes to INSANE amounts of damage right off

Almost as if I hit a magazine or fuel tank - or some sort of explosive cargo

Is that a bug, or on purpose?

Capt. Morgan · 04-23-11, 09:09 PM

@ Anthony W

Maybe you've been really lucky and have hit explosives and fuel.

I've just put two Mk.14's into a 10,000t tanker and it took the better part of an hour to sink (using this mod, TMO 2.1 & RSRDC)

Anthony W. · 04-23-11, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt. Morgan

@ Anthony W

Maybe you've been really lucky and have hit explosives and fuel.

I've just put two Mk.14's into a 10,000t tanker and it took the better part of an hour to sink (using this mod, TMO 2.1 & RSRDC)

I didn't even know the game modeled that? Because up till I downloaded this, hitting a tanker could take a while before it sank - but actual reports indicated that those things lit off like TNT

BillBam · 04-23-11, 10:05 PM

I have noticed a larger louder explosion but definitely not more damage at least initially, it is all show.

Capt. Morgan · 04-25-11, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony W.

I didn't even know the game modeled that? Because up till I downloaded this, hitting a tanker could take a while before it sank - but actual reports indicated that those things lit off like TNT

In the mission editor you can vary the cargo on the ships, both external and internal. Ammunition and fuel are two of the options (big KaBoom), and then again, tankers can also be empty.

I don't have the manual handy but IIRC, TMO Varies the stock frequency of explosive cargo throughout the course of the war.

Fish40 · 04-26-11, 08:17 AM

I finally had the opportunity to see if this mod works, and I must say that I believe it does. I play with RFB which has adjusted the sink rates of ships to realistic times based on flooding instead of hitpoints. The one thing that I hardly ever saw was the big secondary explosions after almost every torpedo impact like the stock game has.

After installing this mod, I torpedoed a Old Raked Bow Merchant. One of the torpedoes hit smack under the stack after which followed a secondary explosion setting the thing ablaze. The ship still took a realistic time to go down, but IMHO I do believe the fires sped up the process a bit. I like it! Not overdone like the damage from stock explosions, but something you could believe. Lets face it, fire dose cause damage and destruction! I think I'm gonna keep this one!

03-04-11, 04:45 PM	#1
Nisgeis Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,909 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 11	So does this actually work at all? All reports seems to indicate not? __________________ -------------------------------- This space left intentionally blank.

03-06-11, 01:44 PM	#4
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,303 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Very nice! Long missing damage fire. Nice work! __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

04-23-11, 07:58 PM	#6
Anthony W. Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Central Indiana Posts: 850 Downloads: 130 Uploads: 0	This mod seems to make my torpedoes to INSANE amounts of damage right off Almost as if I hit a magazine or fuel tank - or some sort of explosive cargo Is that a bug, or on purpose? __________________ Sunken Mustangs Proud Ford Mustang owner "Damn the torpedoes! Full speed ahead!" - Admiral David Farragut Run silent - run deep - keep the baffles clear - targets front and center. Private pilot and history buff

04-23-11, 09:09 PM	#7
Capt. Morgan Commander Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Just east of the west coast. Posts: 463 Downloads: 424 Uploads: 0	@ Anthony W Maybe you've been really lucky and have hit explosives and fuel. I've just put two Mk.14's into a 10,000t tanker and it took the better part of an hour to sink (using this mod, TMO 2.1 & RSRDC) __________________ There are no great men, only great challenges that ordinary men are forced by circumstances to meet. -- Admiral William Halsey

04-23-11, 10:05 PM	#9
BillBam Watch Officer Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Yuba/Sutter, CA Posts: 347 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	I have noticed a larger louder explosion but definitely not more damage at least initially, it is all show. __________________

03-06-11, 07:15 PM	#5
Char Medic Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Albany,NY Posts: 160 Downloads: 199 Uploads: 0	After doing some more testing,I've found this mod to only be effective if the target is at extremely low health or already sinking.I've seen increased amounts of ships splitting in half and an increase in the amount of secondary explosions on Tankers,Destroyers,and Cruisers. I've also seen that while fires are burning,Ships WILL flood and sink at a slightly quicker pace.But were talking a maximum of only 10 to 15 seconds quicker than usual. Perhaps increasing the rate the HP burns off would show more results? On a Side note HOW MUCH HP does this mod actually burn off per second and how much Total HP do most mid-sized tankers have?

04-26-11, 08:17 AM	#11
Fish40 The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yonkers, NY U.S.A. Posts: 1,507 Downloads: 154 Uploads: 0	I finally had the opportunity to see if this mod works, and I must say that I believe it does. I play with RFB which has adjusted the sink rates of ships to realistic times based on flooding instead of hitpoints. The one thing that I hardly ever saw was the big secondary explosions after almost every torpedo impact like the stock game has. After installing this mod, I torpedoed a Old Raked Bow Merchant. One of the torpedoes hit smack under the stack after which followed a secondary explosion setting the thing ablaze. The ship still took a realistic time to go down, but IMHO I do believe the fires sped up the process a bit. I like it! Not overdone like the damage from stock explosions, but something you could believe. Lets face it, fire dose cause damage and destruction! I think I'm gonna keep this one!