No Fly Zone

Skybird · 03-03-11, 06:53 AM

the most logical choice for basing an air force to enforce a no fly zone, would be Italy, or carriers.

However, relocating a really not small force of fighters to bases in southern italy, and reorganising the logistics to maintain and supply them there, is no small task. I think it would be easier with a carrier whose wings already already are autark.

The US should be payed financial compensation for the operation by it'S NATO partners.

This is not to stay out of the action by paying money. I just think that it would be easier with a carrier indeed. From mItaly, there could be additional sorties of tankers and AWACS.

However, take into account to deal with SAMs. Any enforcing of a no fly zone would need to include planning for substantial anti-SAM campaigns.

It would not be enough to just throw in a handful of fighters there.

Oberon · 03-03-11, 07:08 AM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12633415

Is this the beginning?

Skybird · 03-03-11, 07:19 AM

Sounds as if once again planners were basing on the assumption that there are no enemies that are hostile and that the opponent's good will and cooperation could be taken for granted.

Why send in the military then!?

Do it in force, or don't do it at all. But don't make yourself depending on the cooperation of the enemy - never. I learned that in chess, but is it really any different in reality?

Castout · 03-03-11, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Do it in force, or don't do it at all. But don't make yourself depending on the cooperation of the enemy - never. I learned that in chess, but is it really any different in reality?

Yes it is different in reality. There's interests and hidden agenda in RL. In chess it's so straightforward, to defeat the other color. In life?! Well the politicians would like to tread carefully and only act in the name of best self interest instead of good will or mere conscience.

The short form is there's no politicking in chess.

I'd wager a hundred bucks that Gaddafi will be out without Libya descending into full scale protracted civil war or general chaos. Libyans would have their way. Gaddafi will be out of power. Alive or dead I do not know but out of power will he be before any other Arab country get their evolution to be successful. Libya will be the bloodiest evolution of them all. It already has. Another country will follow to get their evolution after Libya and it will be the last one of the string that has been sweeping the middle east.

Jimbuna · 03-04-11, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12633415

Is this the beginning?

Oh Christ!!...what a potential mess

Jimbuna · 03-04-11, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

The US should be payed financial compensation for the operation by it'S NATO partners.

Most definitely

krashkart · 03-04-11, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

The Krashkartista Freelance Liberation Front should be payed financial compensation for the operation by it'S international network of clandestine financiers.

Fixed.

Jimbuna · 03-04-11, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by krashkart

Fixed.

WTF!!

TorpX · 03-04-11, 07:50 PM

I'm not going to worry too much. I think he'll be gone before they can work out the details of a no-fly zone.

Castout · 03-05-11, 02:26 AM

He'll leave just a number of casualties. Lives are precious. More so of very courageous people.

03-03-11, 06:53 AM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,687 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	the most logical choice for basing an air force to enforce a no fly zone, would be Italy, or carriers. However, relocating a really not small force of fighters to bases in southern italy, and reorganising the logistics to maintain and supply them there, is no small task. I think it would be easier with a carrier whose wings already already are autark. The US should be payed financial compensation for the operation by it'S NATO partners. This is not to stay out of the action by paying money. I just think that it would be easier with a carrier indeed. From mItaly, there could be additional sorties of tankers and AWACS. However, take into account to deal with SAMs. Any enforcing of a no fly zone would need to include planning for substantial anti-SAM campaigns. It would not be enough to just throw in a handful of fighters there. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

03-03-11, 07:19 AM	#3
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,687 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Sounds as if once again planners were basing on the assumption that there are no enemies that are hostile and that the opponent's good will and cooperation could be taken for granted. Why send in the military then!? Do it in force, or don't do it at all. But don't make yourself depending on the cooperation of the enemy - never. I learned that in chess, but is it really any different in reality? __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

03-05-11, 02:26 AM	#10
Castout Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Jakarta Posts: 4,794 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 6	He'll leave just a number of casualties. Lives are precious. More so of very courageous people. __________________ My blog: http://exposingsingapore.wordpress.com/

03-03-11, 07:08 AM	#2
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12633415 Is this the beginning?

03-04-11, 07:50 PM	#9
TorpX Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,975 Downloads: 153 Uploads: 11	I'm not going to worry too much. I think he'll be gone before they can work out the details of a no-fly zone.