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Old 03-02-11, 10:23 PM   #1
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Command Model - Roman
Country - Humbug.

Infantry - Fallschirmjager 1944
Armor - German
Air Force - American, but add in later model BF-109's
Navy - German, with better admirals.
Artillery - American, circa 1945
Logistics - Soviet, when they got their act together.
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Old 03-02-11, 10:27 PM   #2
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USAF didn't exist in WW2. Although you had the Army Air Corp.
( I have no idea why im spiltting hairs on this, i just am. )
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Old 03-03-11, 01:59 AM   #3
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USAF didn't exist in WW2. Although you had the Army Air Corp.
( I have no idea why im spiltting hairs on this, i just am. )
Actually the USAAC became the USAAF in June 1941. So he just left out an extra 'A'.
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Old 03-03-11, 05:13 AM   #4
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Infantry = Germany
Armor = Russia
Air = USA
Navy = USA
Logistics = USA
Artillery = USA
Command = Germany
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Old 03-03-11, 07:28 AM   #5
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Country: The Empire of Wotsitstan
Infantry = Germany
Armor = Germany
Air = Britain
Navy = Britain
Logistics = USA
Artillery = Russian
Command = Germany
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Old 03-03-11, 08:50 AM   #6
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Country: The Empire of Wotsitstan
Infantry = Germany
Armor = Germany
Air = Britain
Navy = Britain
Logistics = USA
Artillery = Russian
Command = Germany
We think alike Oberon.

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Old 03-03-11, 09:41 AM   #7
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You guys would actually take the British navy over the US Navy? I would think our fleet carriers alone would make the US the obvious choice in that area.
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Old 03-03-11, 07:33 AM   #8
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Erm, let's see.

Country: Hanseatic League of Northern Bigfootia

Infantry - German 43/44 (Panzergrenadiers?)
Armour - Soviet 44/45
Air - US 44/45 (If I could break it down I'll probably say Strategic Air - US 44/45 and Tactical Air - Soviet 44/45, though in the latter category I'm not absolutely decided as to who had it better)
Navy - US 44/45
Logistics - US 44/45
Artillery - Soviet 44/45
Command - Prussia 1866...Well, okay, Soviet 44/45 (You're all really taking the German Command? Are you forgetting how messed up it was?)

And if you'll allow me to add:

Tactical Command and Training - Germany 42/43
Operational Doctrine - Soviet 44/45
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Old 03-03-11, 07:49 AM   #9
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Nation: Zod
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Infantry: German Motorized Infantry
Armour: German Panzers, Assault Guns and Tank Destroyers
Artillery: Soviet 1944/45
Air: RAF
Navy: RN
Logistics: US 1944/45
Command: General Patton

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Old 03-03-11, 07:55 AM   #10
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(You're all really taking the German Command? Are you forgetting how messed up it was?)
It was only messed up because Hitler decided to appoint himself Commander-in-Chief of the German Army.
Back in 1941, which kind of made sense since that is when Germany started to slide downhill.
It is a well-known fact that had Hitler not intervened so much on the ground and let his Generals and Commanders dictate the battles more directly, then Germany could have, and imo would have done much much better.
Prime example: the drive on Moscow.
Germany had excellent Military Commanders, Rommel, Heinz Guderian, and Erich von Manstein come to mind.
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Old 03-03-11, 07:59 AM   #11
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Nation: Takistan

Infantry-British (totally underrated in my view)
Armor-German
Air Force-USA
Navy-USA
Artillery-USSR
Command Model-German
Logistics-USA
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Old 03-03-11, 08:17 AM   #12
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It was only messed up because Hitler decided to appoint himself Commander-in-Chief of the German Army.
Back in 1941, which kind of made sense since that is when Germany started to slide downhill.
It is a well-known fact that had Hitler not intervened so much on the ground and let his Generals and Commanders dictate the battles more directly, then Germany could have, and imo would have done much much better.
Prime example: the drive on Moscow.
Germany had excellent Military Commanders, Rommel, Heinz Guderian, and Erich von Manstein come to mind.
Oh, I'm not disputing that Germany had some very good commanders at the time. But besides Hitler personally directing operations, the German High Command was terribly ineffective. The OKW taking direct control of land campaigns, and as a consequence the rivalry between the different High Command in the Eastern and Western Fronts, is a good example of this.

Granted, Hitler is largely responsible for all this, but unless this is about the highly theoretical German Command structure as it was supposed to work, you can't take the German Command and ignore its vast problems.
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Hmm, Task Force Land.

Infantry: German, with all the cool 44 weaponry.
Armor good mix of German and Soviet tanks.
Air:A mix of German aircraft and Soviet numbers.
Navy: British
Logistics:Soviet
Artillery: Soviet
Command German
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Old 03-03-11, 03:26 PM   #14
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Soviets had logistics ? The same guys who issued 5 bullets to each soldier but only 1/4 of them got rifles. Then when an armed guy fell an unarmed soldier picked the dead guys rifle, loaded in his 5 bullets and continued to fight until he fell.

THESE soviets ?

Thats messed up.

I'd play, but I see no division between logistics and production, R&D, or intel.
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Old 03-03-11, 03:47 PM   #15
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This seems kind of silly...but it also sounds like fun. I'll play

Country- Pwnia
Infantry- German Waffen SS. I know, they were bad guys, but man for man they were damned good fighters!
Armor- German (post-1941. I know the Russians had more serviceable and more effective tanks, but I cannot endorse their crew training model. They just threw men away)

Air Force- Russian. An odd choice, I know, but the Russians developed a close air-support model based on the German model in relatively short order and then actually had the resources to employ it effectively. The US and the British did nothing of the sort. They just threw men and machines at the war until the Axis was literally without means to oppose them, and even then they didn't have any success accomplishing their stated objectives. Worse, the Western Allies engaged in massive and ineffective terror-bombings of civilians. Not in my damn airforce!

Navy- I'll take the US Navy. For all their considerable power and subsequent attempts to check the U-boat threat, the Royal Navy was precisely garbage until the US showed up. All they managed to do was to lose every surface naval engagement and fail to adequately address the U-boat threat on their own, in like, multiple ways.

Actually, now that I think about it, screw the US Navy. The only people who had any idea of how to use a Navy with the goal of "force projection" were the Japanese. They were proactive rather than reactive. Were it not for the incredible stroke of luck we had at Midway, they would have beat our asses black and blue before they succumbed to our material superiority. I want US material superiority combined with Japanese naval tactics.

Artillery - German

German artillery targeting and employment was so frakking good that the US uses it as a model for combined-force operations to this day, and it serves very well.

Command Model - German again. The German model of command is so good that their methods are embraced by the world's only remaining superpower. In fact, we go a step beyond that and have adopted German unit tactics, camoflauge, and even helmets.

Logistics- I'd go with the US, though Russians are a close second. There's nothing quite like mindlessly throwing vastly superior resources at the enemy until they give up because they no longer have the means to resist. It's not a good or effective strategy, but it does work. Actually, I take that back. I'd use the British model of logistics. There is nothing quite like throwing someone else's vastly superior resources at the enemy until they no longer have the means to resist.

So I guess what I really want is allied material superiority and axis troops. Can I do that?
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