Two qucik ones about Hospital and Capital Ships

HotiBomba · 02-25-11, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by frau kaleun

1. Ships are considered enemy, neutral, or friendly based on what nation's flag they sail under, not their location. Hospital ships, though, are ALWAYS neutral. They are off limits wherever you find them, and unless you have deliberately edited out the renown hit for sinking one, doing so will likely result in you returning to base to find out that your career is over.

2. Never tried out the Indian Ocean. I'm sure it's possible to interrogate the Mission Editor to see what's scripted where and when, but no doubt there will be others here you have experience in that part of the world and can give you some pointers.

Danke, frau kaleun

frau kaleun · 02-25-11, 09:25 PM

Gern geschehen!

Bakkels · 02-25-11, 11:30 PM

Wow, is the renown penalty that big? Didn't know, and now I'm glad I didn't run into a hospital ship yet. I could (and probably would) have easily got it mixed up with a troop transport and sunk it the minute I came across it...
But actually pretty cool realism wise IMO that you get a big penalty for sinking a hospital ship.

iambecomelife · 02-25-11, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bakkels

Wow, is the renown penalty that big? Didn't know, and now I'm glad I didn't run into a hospital ship yet. I could (and probably would) have easily got it mixed up with a troop transport and sunk it the minute I came across it...
But actually pretty cool realism wise IMO that you get a big penalty for sinking a hospital ship.

Hospital ships in the latest supermods are lit up, unlike troopships, which sailed blacked out. If your target has running lights on, break off your attack - it's likely something off limits.

frau kaleun · 02-25-11, 11:43 PM

I can't remember the exact number, but you would take a huge renown hit for it compared to sinking any other ship. In the GWX renown chart I have I think it's valued at -1000, but I'm not sure if that gets multiplied by anything when the game tallies it up. Could be an exaggeration to say it would end your career, but you're sure not gonna gain anything by it and if you're playing realistically it's not something you would ever do. Hospital ships might have your own wounded peeps on board.

iambecomelife · 02-25-11, 11:49 PM

As a side note, it's impressive how the WWII Kriegsmarine respected hospital ships, despite serving an atrocious regime. I think there was only one case of a HS in WWII being torpedoed by the Germans, and that was in poor visibility. In contrast, some WWI submariners were brutal (for instance, the "Llandovery Castle" incident, where a hospital ship was sunk and the lifeboats were strafed).

Gargamel · 02-26-11, 12:15 AM

The renown hit for "wrongship" in the basic.cfg is -5000. That may not end your career, but it should be close. I would imagine the renown attached to a hospital ship is a huge negative number too. Not even sure what Wrongship is used for anwyays.

Tinman764 · 02-26-11, 05:34 AM

Makes me wonder why troop ships weren't disguised as hospital ships, or were they?

02-25-11, 11:30 PM	#3
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02-25-11, 11:49 PM	#6
iambecomelife Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,706 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 0	As a side note, it's impressive how the WWII Kriegsmarine respected hospital ships, despite serving an atrocious regime. I think there was only one case of a HS in WWII being torpedoed by the Germans, and that was in poor visibility. In contrast, some WWI submariners were brutal (for instance, the "Llandovery Castle" incident, where a hospital ship was sunk and the lifeboats were strafed). __________________ https://www.facebook.com/WolvesoftheKaiser/

02-26-11, 12:15 AM	#7
Gargamel Lucky Sailor Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Rome Posts: 4,273 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	The renown hit for "wrongship" in the basic.cfg is -5000. That may not end your career, but it should be close. I would imagine the renown attached to a hospital ship is a huge negative number too. Not even sure what Wrongship is used for anwyays. __________________ Luck is a residue of Design.

02-25-11, 09:25 PM	#2
frau kaleun Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skyri--oh who are we kidding, I'm probably at Lowe's. Again. Posts: 12,706 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	Gern geschehen!

02-25-11, 11:43 PM	#5
frau kaleun Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skyri--oh who are we kidding, I'm probably at Lowe's. Again. Posts: 12,706 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	I can't remember the exact number, but you would take a huge renown hit for it compared to sinking any other ship. In the GWX renown chart I have I think it's valued at -1000, but I'm not sure if that gets multiplied by anything when the game tallies it up. Could be an exaggeration to say it would end your career, but you're sure not gonna gain anything by it and if you're playing realistically it's not something you would ever do. Hospital ships might have your own wounded peeps on board.

02-26-11, 05:34 AM	#8
Tinman764 Chief Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: U-32's Wintergarten Posts: 325 Downloads: 182 Uploads: 0	Makes me wonder why troop ships weren't disguised as hospital ships, or were they?