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[Skybird]

Could anyone help me out with my confusion about dual boot setups? I am really struggling to understand how it works and how the two OS interact with installed software. What I read on the web so far does not help me, it leaves my basic misunderstanding unadressed.

[the_tyrant]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Could anyone help me out with my confusion about dual boot setups? I am really struggling to understand how it works and how the two OS interact with installed software. What I read on the web so far does not help me, it leaves my basic misunderstanding unadressed.

Duel boot=2 operating systems on the same computer
they can usually access each other's files, but maintains 2 different registries

so if a piece of software does not need registry entries, you can find the exe and run it from either os. But if it does, it can only run on the os you installed it in.

anyways, for old games you might as well use vitualization

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by the_tyrant

Duel boot=2 operating systems on the same computer
they can usually access each other's files, but maintains 2 different registries

so if a piece of software does not need registry entries, you can find the exe and run it from either os. But if it does, it can only run on the os you installed it in.

anyways, for old games you might as well use vitualization

Two registries, okay. So I would need TWO firewalls and TWO antivir?

I checked some German sites for tech marks on CPUs, and found that an i5 661 may give me 2x3.33 GHz and a good bang for the money (190,-) , it competed nicely with the i7 in higher resolution 3D benchmarks (1650x1050 over here). That with maybe a 1156 mainboard based on H55 chips. Asus P7P55LX (100,-), how does that sound?

Then I tend to go with a 500 GB Western Digital SATA drive with 16 MB Cache and 7200, my current WD is so silent I cannot hear it. Another 40,-

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit. 85,-

DVD writer. 30,- (?)

PSU, another unsolved question. Silent it should be, and not getting consumed to the max when the system is running at maximum CPU and GFX. Am I safe with 500W when considering 4 GB RAM (name, ~ 60,- ) and something in the range of an nVidia GTX460 (768)? (150,- )? Lets mark the PSU with 45,- . And a tower where all the stuff goes into: 70,- .

Cables I should have more than enough. Soundcard: I just use my old Audigy, if needed. It runs since 8 years or so.

The cable from my DSL, it goes directly into the mainboard, if I am not mistaken? No WLAN needed here. I am not sure,m could be that I need that RJ45 card. 15,- . Two or three additional fans: 30,- .

Well, that is the idea. Let's see:

190
100
40
85
30
60
150
45
70
15
30
===

815,-

Does not look too bad. My target mark was 750,- Euros.

Has anyone a tip for a German adress where to get a system comparable to this ^ for less money?

P.S.
I forgot an USB hub . I need 7-8 ports. Costs how much? Let's say 20,- .

Makes 835,- all in all.

Bring that down by at least 80 Euros, and I am a happy customer

[the_tyrant]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Two registries, okay. So I would need TWO firewalls and TWO antivir?

I checked some German sites for tech marks on CPUs, and found that an i5 661 may give me 2x3.33 GHz and a good bang for the money (190,-) , it competed nicely with the i7 in higher resolution 3D benchmarks (1650x1050 over here). That with maybe a 1156 mainboard based on H55 chips. Asus P7P55LX (100,-), how does that sound?

Then I tend to go with a 500 GB Western Digital SATA drive with 16 MB Cache and 7200, my current WD is so silent I cannot hear it. Another 40,-

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit. 85,-

DVD writer. 30,- (?)

PSU, another unsolved question. Silent it should be, and not getting consumed to the max when the system is running at maximum CPU and GFX. Am I safe with 500W when considering 4 GB RAM (name, ~ 60,- ) and something in the range of an nVidia GTX460 (768)? (150,- )? Lets mark the PSU with 45,- . And a tower where all the stuff goes into: 70,- .

Cables I should have more than enough. Soundcard: I just use my old Audigy, if needed. It runs since 8 years or so.

The cable from my DSL, it goes directly into the mainboard, if I am not mistaken? No WLAN needed here. I am not sure,m could be that I need that RJ45 card. 15,- . Two or three additional fans: 30,- .

Well, that is the idea. Let's see:

190
100
40
85
30
60
150
45
70
15
30
===

815,-

Does not look too bad. My target mark was 750,- Euros.

Has anyone a tip for a German adress where to get a system comparable to this ^ for less money?

P.S.
I forgot an USB hub . I need 7-8 ports. Costs how much? Let's say 20,- .

Makes 835,- all in all.

Bring that down by at least 80 Euros, and I am a happy customer

Only one set of antivirus and firewall is needed. For your main system(i assume one OS is for internet, and most applications while the other one is simply for old games)

I'm pretty sure you don't need an RJ45 NIC, its intergrated in 99.9% of all motherboards. 500w PSU is enough.

All i would change is that I would recommend 6gb ram. Most programs nowadays can only use up to 4 gbs of ram, so you still have 2 gb for windows and background programs. Also, 3 channel ram preforms better than 2 channel ram.

As for UAC, what castout is talking about is that if you use an account with less than administrator rights it will ask for a password. But since most of us use the default administrator account anyways, no password is needed.
Keep it on though, it keeps you from doing stupid things

if you want to save some money, but the cheapest optical drive available(or even don't use one). its barely used anyways.
also, most motherboards have 6 usbs, plus 2 in the front panel, so i guess a usb hub won't be needed

[Castout]

I can vouch for 6Gb or RAM. And a 1,000 Gb is wiser than a 500Gb one. Really price wise.

The provided Amazon link looks terrific though it only has a 4Gb RAM.

Does UAC help prevent hackers from messing critical files tyrant?
I ask because you seem to be in the know how of hacking.

[Jan Kyster]

Just a sidenote...

Don't waste your time with dual boot. I did, but found there's absolutely nothing Windows 7 wouldn't run at least as good as XP did.

And dual-boot is a real pain to get rid of again...


Better keep the old XP disc untouched. Should you one day need it, just plug it in. I kept mine just as a backup disc.


Best of luck!

[Castout]

I share Jan opinion. If you still need XP however I'd recommend external HDD (USB drive)

[the_tyrant]

Originally Posted by Castout

I can vouch for 6Gb or RAM. And a 1,000 Gb is wiser than a 500Gb one. Really price wise.

The provided Amazon link looks terrific though it only has a 4Gb RAM.

Does UAC help prevent hackers from messing critical files tyrant?
I ask because you seem to be in the know how of hacking.

yes and no
it did when it first came out it made many old malware obsolete, because if someone clicked on it a popup would ask "do you want to give it administrator rights", and administrator rights shouldn't be required for a random piece of software

but not much any more.
Most virus writers know how to do their thing without needing administrator rights.
link:http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2009...-8-10-viruses/

think about it this way
the hacker would first penetrate your system using a remote buffer overflow
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffer_...w#Exploitation
the hacker would then install a keylogger on your computer
it would log every key you type, and send it to the hacker.

both steps don't require UAC, and it would give the hacker your UAC password

Anyways, my advice
Are you behind a NAT?
aka, go in command prompt, and type in:
ipconfig

find your IP address, if it is something like:
10.*.*.*
or
172.*.*.*
or
192.168.*.* you are safe from most remote exploits
If not, get yourself a route

Now you should check for viruses and malware
Get your torrents and porn from reliable sources.
Beware of browser attacks, only go to reliable sites.
Get yourself a decent antivirus software

if your still getting hacked, you will need more drastic measures.

You might want to consider a network based firewall/ids
its not cheap though, but if the hacker hacking you can tunnel through you NAT, its probably a reasonable choice

Try a virtual machine or a separate computer for porn, torrents, and other internet uses.

Encrypt your sensitive files, use a good encryption software(i recommend true crypt)

The price of a network Firewall/IDS is quite expensive, so you might want ton consider a host based IDS like Snort