Gaza militants fire rockets at Beersheba, Israel

[redsocialist]

Originally Posted by MH

Good point next time Israel will wait until some one gets killed then retaliate.
10 Palestinians for 10 Israelis.
Need good publicity lets make it 5 Palestinians for 10 Israelis.
Score for this incident is about 3 hamas terrorists killed 0 Israelis.
My apologies.

Good point how about Palestine waits for more of their babies and children to be killed before another Israeil -US supplied bomb blasts them to pieces. Give up Hamas so they can take over the entire land of Palestine. Then AIPAC, and the zionists can applaud freedom and democracy from the genocide. Then while they're at it, harvest those organs of murdered Palestinians and sell them using the magical wonders of the free market. Great thinking

Until 1967 the West Bank was owned by Jordan.

No it wasn't.

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by frau kaleun

That's obviously a trick question. No one here is older than Steve.

OMG, you're cutting in on my turf. (SS age jokes) August is up there, but I don't think he served on the USS Monitor like Steve did.

[MH]

Originally Posted by redsocialist

.Bla Bla.....harvest those organs of murdered Palestinians and sell them using the magical wonders of the free market. Great thinking

You are insane.
So simple.
being a commie quite feats you.

[redsocialist]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

I think that's why a Palestinian state would never work. They'll pick a fight and get their butts kicked. I think they should pave that whole region and build a Disneyland on it. It would save a lot of fuss.

From that thinking that would be great for Israel. Pave the whole region to build Mosques all over. Maybe the same for USA since its Israel's biggest ally, and Israel would get they're butts kicked if it wasn't for that 4 million dollars a day from AIPAC

[nikimcbee]

Our favorite herring is back?

[redsocialist]

Originally Posted by MH

You are insane.
So simple.

Great logic and come back regarding the issue. Also like how u replaced the points with "blah blah" really show's your intelligence.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by redsocialist

I think israel has a right to exist up to gaza. They should stop the funding from AIPAC from USA, stop harvasting organs and commiting genocide against Palestinians. Other than that, they should give up they're imperialist thinking close down all their check points hand Gaza pack to Palestine which they stole. I am very aware of the hatred of zionism which I hate zionism. Zionism is not juadism, its an extreme form and culture of the jews. Just like any religion has its extremes. I'm no diplomat so I don't know how to solve the situation but thats how I feel

At first glace you'd think that Israel handing everything back would solve it...but I'll tell you right now, it wouldn't, because they'd want more, everyone would start laying claims to parts of Israel until Israel itself consists of a prison camp in Greater Syria. There's a reason Israel acts like it does, because its own survival depends on it being too dangerous to fight. One of its most famous generals, Moshe Dayan, once said "Israel must be like a rabid dog, too dangerous to bother."
Three times, that I can recall off hand, three times Israel has been invaded by its neighbours and three times they've managed to fight them off and expand their borders. Since then the neighbours have been arming up, and now they have support from their brethren across the world, but they realise that they don't have to fight Israel to win, they just have to wait, wait and provoke Israel by trying to break the blockade, by provoking Israeli bombing runs by firing missiles into Israel, then showing CNN pictures of bombed 'baby milk factories', and each time Israel discredits itself in global opinion, more and more people form opinions like yours, and then eventually Israel will stand alone, and her neighbours will try again and Israel will be forced to be the rabid dog and everyone will be cycling because we can't afford fuel for our cars. Samson option.

"Israel has been building nuclear weapons for 30 years. The Jews understand what passive and powerless acceptance of doom has meant for them in the past, and they have ensured against it. Masada was not an example to follow — it hurt the Romans not a whit, but Samson in Gaza? What would serve the Jew-hating world better in repayment for thousands of years of massacres but a Nuclear Winter. Or invite all those tut-tutting European statesmen and peace activists to join us in the ovens? For the first time in history, a people facing extermination while the world either cackles or looks away--unlike the Armenians, Tibetans, World War II European Jews or Rwandans--have the power to destroy the world. The ultimate justice?" - David Perlmutter - Louisiania State University.

[Schroeder]

Originally Posted by redsocialist

Good point how about Palestine waits for more of their babies and children to be killed before another Israeil -US supplied bomb blasts them to pieces. Give up Hamas so they can take over the entire land of Palestine. Then AIPAC, and the zionists can applaud freedom and democracy from the genocide. Then while they're at it, harvest those organs of murdered Palestinians and sell them using the magical wonders of the free market. Great thinking

So does Israel bomb Gaza randomly without any provocation?

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by redsocialist

I think israel has a right to exist up to gaza. They should stop the funding from AIPAC from USA, stop harvasting organs and commiting genocide against Palestinians.

Given the situation, I think if they actually wanted to commit genocide it would be done already.

[quote]Other than that, they should give up they're imperialist thinking close down all their check points hand Gaza pack to Palestine which they stole.[quote]
As I said, they didn't steal it, they won it fair-and-sqare from Jordan. "Palistine" never owned that land, at least not in the last four millennia.

Now it's my turn for a fun link:
http://emetnews.org/analysis/arab_cl..._palestine.php

I am very aware of the hatred of zionism which I hate zionism. Zionism is not juadism, its an extreme form and culture of the jews. Just like any religion has its extremes. I'm no diplomat so I don't know how to solve the situation but thats how I feel

Nor do I, but I don't think forcing Israel to give up the buffer zone between themselves and Jordan is the answer.

[redsocialist]

Originally Posted by Oberon

At first glace you'd think that Israel handing everything back would solve it...but I'll tell you right now, it wouldn't, because they'd want more, everyone would start laying claims to parts of Israel until Israel itself consists of a prison camp in Greater Syria. There's a reason Israel acts like it does, because its own survival depends on it being too dangerous to fight. One of its most famous generals, Moshe Dayan, once said "Israel must be like a rabid dog, too dangerous to bother."
Three times, that I can recall off hand, three times Israel has been invaded by its neighbours and three times they've managed to fight them off and expand their borders. Since then the neighbours have been arming up, and now they have support from their brethren across the world, but they realise that they don't have to fight Israel to win, they just have to wait, wait and provoke Israel by trying to break the blockade, by provoking Israeli bombing runs by firing missiles into Israel, then showing CNN pictures of bombed 'baby milk factories', and each time Israel discredits itself in global opinion, more and more people form opinions like yours, and then eventually Israel will stand alone, and her neighbours will try again and Israel will be forced to be the rabid dog and everyone will be cycling because we can't afford fuel for our cars. Samson option.

"Israel has been building nuclear weapons for 30 years. The Jews understand what passive and powerless acceptance of doom has meant for them in the past, and they have ensured against it. Masada was not an example to follow — it hurt the Romans not a whit, but Samson in Gaza? What would serve the Jew-hating world better in repayment for thousands of years of massacres but a Nuclear Winter. Or invite all those tut-tutting European statesmen and peace activists to join us in the ovens? For the first time in history, a people facing extermination while the world either cackles or looks away--unlike the Armenians, Tibetans, World War II European Jews or Rwandans--have the power to destroy the world. The ultimate justice?" - David Perlmutter - Louisiania State University.

Yea accept, its not the Israeli people except for the zionists and they're government. Also are you aware many Jews hate what Israel is doing? In your own country surley you have seen protests from jews disgusted what they're country was doing. Its zionism not the jews, and they make it look like Israel is a victim of anti-semitism when in fact its the zionists who are acting like nazis. Palestinians will fight for they're country, and Hamas will continue to win the elections. Her neighboors? Last time I checked almost the whole international community "so called" is against what Israel is doing. War crimes mean nothing and they get away with them everytime, backing the media propganda machine

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by frau kaleun

That's obviously a trick question. No one here is older than Steve.

While not literally true, I do seem to be the oldest member who contributes on a regular basis. Funny thing for a guy who got labelled "The California Kid" shortly after I came to Utah.

But my point stands: I don't think anyone here older than me uses code-speak.

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

No it wasn't.

Yes it was...

His Majesty's Government in the United Kingdom have been officially informed by the Government of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan of the union of the Kingdom of Jordan and of that part of Palestine under Jordan occupation and control. The Jordan Government, in this communication, have stated that an Act providing for this union was unanimously adopted on 24th April by the Jordan Assembly, which is composed of representatives of both these territories, and received the Royal Assent on the same day. His Majesty's Government have decided to accord formal recognition to this union. They take this opportunity of declaring that they regard the provisions of the Anglo-Jordan Treaty of Alliance of 1948 as applicable to all the territory included in the union.


The second point relates to Jerusalem. The part of Palestine which is now united to the Kingdom of Jordan includes a portion of the area defined in the Resolution on the internationalisation of Jerusalem adopted by the General Assembly of the United Nations on 9th December, 1949. His Majesty's Government wish to state that, pending a final determination of the status of this area, they are unable to recognise Jordan sovereignty over any part of it. They do, however, recognise that Jordan exercises de facto authority in the part occupied by her. They consider, therefore, that the Anglo-Jordan Treaty applies to this part, unless or until the United Nations shall have established effective authority there. His Majesty's Government's obligations under the Treaty are, of course, subject always to their overriding obligations under the United Nations Charter.

http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/c...nment-decision

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

No it wasn't.

1. I've been wanting to say this for a long time. When you quote, please use the full quote function so we can see who you're quoting and don't have to guess.

2. Please don't be so cryptic. "No it wasn't" doesn't tell me where I'm wrong, and I like to learn where I'm wrong. Who did own the West Bank pre-1967?

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

OMG, you're cutting in on my turf. (SS age jokes) August is up there, but I don't think he served on the USS Monitor like Steve did.

Actually yes he did. He just wasn't with me on Constitution.