Egypt-Inspired Protests Spread to Libya

Your point?

His point was mainly nonsense.
Its a retired former supreme court judge heading a commitee of 3 current judges 3 constitutional lawyers and one member of parliament and they are not drawing up a new constitution. They are dealing with a small number of amendments that were introduced as emergency legislation mainly transferred powers to Mubbarak, changed term limits, nominations for elections and freedom of information.

There will at a later date be another committee formed to draw up a new constitution which will then have to be put to a referendum.

Wierd isn't it, somehow it just doesn't sound as scary as "islamist drawing up new constitution".

[Krauter]

Wierd isn't it, somehow it just doesn't sound as scary as "islamist drawing up new constitution".

I like the way you think.

[August]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

I suppose by your responses you two actually believe Islam is a peaceful religion too.

No, I believe that the Egyptian people have the right to self determination. Was I not clear?

Go right ahead and keep thinking these are just brave young students shouting slogans for freedom and democracy.

I'll go ahead and continue to believe in the American concept of Government by the People. Don't you find it the least bit hypocritical to demand it for yourself but deny it to others?

[Rockstar]

But is it not logical to cheer these peoples in their attempts to rid themselves of a maniacal dictator?

If not then I think you need to get back to reality

Logical if leadership is exchanged for something better.

As far as your comment about me being an ass hole. I have one thing to say to you buster. I can most definitely with out a doubt resemble that remark at times!

[Krauter]

I apologize for that.. for some reason what you said just struck a chord with me...


Anyways, I do think you have a point in that, if a dictator is removed and the country is left to find a suitable fair representative, more often than not someone corrupt or dangerous will take power. I understand that.

What I believe in however is that leave the people to their own devices, without outside influence and they will find a suitable representative that meets their requirements and who will be fair.

[Rockstar]

No worries, it doesn't happen often and I've been called far worse and always most deserving of it too.

My apologies to you too sir.

I've said this before some time ago. Islam is a religion of peace, but there can be no peace until all have submitted to Islam. And to think some here in America are unknowingly encouraging it. You know, there may just be a Caliphate in my lifetime yet.

[Sailor Steve]

@ Krauter and Rockstar: Whatever your intent, that kind of language is not proper for these boards. Please read the rules before posting.

[Rockstar]

Sorry Sailor Steve yer right the rules is the rules and ought to be observed at all times.

[Gerald]

Anti-government activists in Libya have been using social networking sites to rally support for protests on what they are describing as a "day of anger".

There were reports of clashes in two cities late on Wednesday, with about four people reported dead in the eastern city of al-Bayda.

Dozens of people were injured in violent demonstrations on Tuesday night in the eastern city of Benghazi.

The unrest there followed the detention of an outspoken government critic.

Pro-democracy protests have recently swept through several Arab nations, with the presidents of Tunisia and Egypt forced to resign amid growing unrest.

But this week's demonstrations were the first display of defiance in Libya, where dissent is rarely tolerated.
'The revolution continues!'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12490504


Note: Update Record,17 February 2011 Last updated at 10:48 GMT

[Rockstar]

And in our own backyard someone named Amir Abdel Malik-Ali just a month ago after giving a speech at the Muslim Student Association at UCLA. When he ended it he asked everyone to rise and join him in the pledge of allegiance. Not the one you think though.

I wonder how long it will take before these freedom loving students begin shouting their slogans and exercise their 'rights' for self determination here in the US?

Allah is my Lord
Islam is my Life
The Quran is my guide
The Sunna is my practice
Jihad is my Spirit
Righteousness is my Character
Paradise is my Goal
I enjoin what is Right
I forbid what is Wrong
I will fight against Oppression
And I will die to establish Islam

I wonder how long it will take before these freedom loving students begin shouting their slogans and exercise their 'rights' for self determination here in the US?

Will it take longer than the scary judge rewriting the constitution or longer than the global caliphate which is hiding under the bed?

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Will it take longer than the scary judge rewriting the constitution or longer than the global caliphate which is hiding under the bed?

I have no doubt it will take much less time over there.

<edit> Whaddya know another U.S. allied country Bahrain. Host to the U.S. Navy's fifth fleet the counter balance to Iran. I suppose you'll tell me more poor students are fighting for self determination freedom and democracy there too. I must admit maybe some are but they are nothing more than patsies.

<edit> Upon futher investigation these protesters are a majoity Shia Muslim and they call themselves pro-democracy freedom fighters too! imagine that. Western media loves that crap so do the people they fall head over heels for those kinds of buzz words. When actually what they are fighting for is for the king to step down so they can live under a Shia Iman instead and probably boot the 5th fleet out.

http://www.shiitenews.com/index.php?...orld&Itemid=70

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wow whoda thunk it , people are objecting to minority rule where absolute power is placed with one family and Rockstar condemned it then had to look it up to find out who his allies were.

One easy lesson, if you don't want to be associated with despots who keep their people down and don't want to face the natural consequences when they are eventually overthrown then don't choose dodgy regimes as allies

BTW Rockstar, if these people are shia does that mean they are the ones who are going to form a global caliphate or do you think it will be the sunnis..... or do you think?

[Rockstar]

wow whoda thunk it , people are objecting to minority rule where absolute power is placed with one family and Rockstar condemned it then had to look it up to find out who his allies were.

One easy lesson, if you don't want to be associated with despots who keep their people down and don't want to face the natural consequences when they are eventually overthrown then don't choose dodgy regimes as allies

You hear in western media of students fighting for democracy self determination and get this, against government corruption. Do you know what a corrupt government is to a Muslim?

"One of the forms of jihad in Islam is jihad against evil and corruption within [the Islamic lands]. This jihad is crucial in order to protect society from collapse, disintegration, and perdition — for Muslim society has unique characteristics, and if these are lost, forgotten or destroyed, there will be no Muslim society."

Laws of Jihad by Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi

Kings, Dictators, Queens, Presidents, whether they be Sunni or Shia those leaders who have associations with infidels such as you and I are corrupt and must be dealt with. That is what we are seeing happen before us today. I hope you understand your perception of government corruption is so very far from theirs.

BTW Rockstar, if these people are shia does that mean they are the ones who are going to form a global caliphate or do you think it will be the sunnis..... or do you think?

Well Tribesman, the Sahib Al-Zaman is established doctrine for both Sunni and Shi’a Muslims. Though Sunni beliefs differ slightly in some areas, one in particular being I think some Sunni believe Caliph will speak Hebrew.


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[Jimbuna]

...and so it continues