[REL] Real Fleet Boat 2.0

TorpX · 02-16-11, 04:42 PM

JREX53,

I have the 0.9 version for RFB, but it says in the documentation that it is for "those people who play strictly RFB without RSRDC". Is this the best available version?

There are many patches and versions floating around for RFB, and often these lack documentation.

JREX53 · 02-16-11, 10:29 PM

TorpX,

Let me do some looking at v 0.9 for RFB, to see what needs to be done to get to be RSRDC compatible. I will let you know in the next day or two about getting a RFB + RSRDC version out.

TorpX · 02-17-11, 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JREX53

TorpX,

Let me do some looking at v 0.9 for RFB, to see what needs to be done to get to be RSRDC compatible. I will let you know in the next day or two about getting a RFB + RSRDC version out.

OK, much thanks.

JREX53 · 02-17-11, 10:33 PM

TorpX,

It's going to take me a week or so to get a version of SAP compatible with RSRDC and RFB 2.0. I have 20+ ships to test to get a compatible version. Will start in the next day or so.

NoJoe · 02-23-11, 02:16 PM

I just started playing around with RFB, and I don't understand something:

The RFB manual states that the top of the funnel should be used for stadimeter measurements on warships. But using the height value listed in the recognition manual you get incorrect ranges (for example, the manual states the Mogami cruiser height as 100-something feet, while the top of the funnel is only 65 or so). Are we supposed to just use the top of the highest mast, despite what the manual and the tooltip says?

I've searched through this thread and found that this question has been asked a couple times, but not answered.

Thanks,
--NoJoe

NoJoe · 02-24-11, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoJoe

I just started playing around with RFB, and I don't understand something:

The RFB manual states that the top of the funnel should be used for stadimeter measurements on warships. But using the height value listed in the recognition manual you get incorrect ranges (for example, the manual states the Mogami cruiser height as 100-something feet, while the top of the funnel is only 65 or so). Are we supposed to just use the top of the highest mast, despite what the manual and the tooltip says?

I've searched through this thread and found that this question has been asked a couple times, but not answered.

Thanks,
--NoJoe

Anyone have any ideas? Does RFB do this for you guys too, or did I mess something up in the install?

I'm using RFB 2.0 with the patch, and RSRD.

Thanks,
--NoJoe

TorpX · 02-25-11, 12:49 AM

In RFB, you are supposed to use the top of the funnel for (most) warships, the flight deck for carriers, and mast for merchants. But, as you found out, the rec manual values don't agree with the in-game values.

I have been using the rec manual values, as is. My understanding is that CapnScurvy is working on this and related matters (periscope/TBT views).

Bilge_Rat · 02-28-11, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoJoe

I just started playing around with RFB, and I don't understand something:

The RFB manual states that the top of the funnel should be used for stadimeter measurements on warships. But using the height value listed in the recognition manual you get incorrect ranges (for example, the manual states the Mogami cruiser height as 100-something feet, while the top of the funnel is only 65 or so). Are we supposed to just use the top of the highest mast, despite what the manual and the tooltip says?

I've searched through this thread and found that this question has been asked a couple times, but not answered.

Thanks,
--NoJoe

there seems to be contradictory answers/info.

In the "torpedo school" mission, the correct range to the Mogami is calculated the top of the mast height and not from the funnel.

However, in my current RFB/RSRDC campaign, the RFB recommended settings appear to be the correct ones. I tracked a IJN destroyer and the correct range was calculated from the top of the funnel.

I also understand there is a certain amount of fudging in the RFB numbers to reflect real life uncertainty. A design decision some (including me) question, but something you have to live with if you want to use RFB.

I would suggest following the RFB recommended method, but always keep an eye on the size of the ship in the scope. After a while, you will get a "feel" on whether the range you get makes sense or not.

LukeFF · 04-22-11, 03:46 AM

All the mast and funnel heights are taken from the real-world data found in the various USN recognition manuals, be they dead-on accurate or not. In essence, you have the same sort of data the real-world captains had.

fitzcarraldo · 02-23-11, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TorpX

JREX53,

I have the 0.9 version for RFB, but it says in the documentation that it is for "those people who play strictly RFB without RSRDC". Is this the best available version?

There are many patches and versions floating around for RFB, and often these lack documentation.

I have RFB 2, I thinks is the last and better version? Why dou you use 0.9? Is there some special reason?

Many thanks and regards!

Fitzcarraldo

qjp · 02-23-11, 05:13 PM

To fitzcarraldo,
I think jrex53 was talking about this mod
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=151158

Cheers!

fitzcarraldo · 02-23-11, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qjp

To fitzcarraldo,
I think jrex53 was talking about this mod
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=151158

Cheers!

Thanks, mate. I´m oldie in TMO and FOTRS, but RFB is new for me

Best regards.

Fitzcarraldo

02-16-11, 04:42 PM	#1
TorpX Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,975 Downloads: 153 Uploads: 11	JREX53, I have the 0.9 version for RFB, but it says in the documentation that it is for "those people who play strictly RFB without RSRDC". Is this the best available version? There are many patches and versions floating around for RFB, and often these lack documentation.

02-16-11, 10:29 PM	#2
JREX53 Frogman Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 300 Downloads: 353 Uploads: 13	TorpX, Let me do some looking at v 0.9 for RFB, to see what needs to be done to get to be RSRDC compatible. I will let you know in the next day or two about getting a RFB + RSRDC version out. __________________ Jim

02-17-11, 10:33 PM	#4
JREX53 Frogman Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 300 Downloads: 353 Uploads: 13	TorpX, It's going to take me a week or so to get a version of SAP compatible with RSRDC and RFB 2.0. I have 20+ ships to test to get a compatible version. Will start in the next day or so. __________________ Jim

02-25-11, 12:49 AM	#7
TorpX Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,975 Downloads: 153 Uploads: 11	base height In RFB, you are supposed to use the top of the funnel for (most) warships, the flight deck for carriers, and mast for merchants. But, as you found out, the rec manual values don't agree with the in-game values. I have been using the rec manual values, as is. My understanding is that CapnScurvy is working on this and related matters (periscope/TBT views).

04-22-11, 03:46 AM	#9
LukeFF Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Riverside, California Posts: 3,610 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 5	All the mast and funnel heights are taken from the real-world data found in the various USN recognition manuals, be they dead-on accurate or not. In essence, you have the same sort of data the real-world captains had. __________________ ROW Sound Effects Contributor RFB Team Leader

02-23-11, 02:16 PM	#5
NoJoe Swabbie Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 6 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	I just started playing around with RFB, and I don't understand something: The RFB manual states that the top of the funnel should be used for stadimeter measurements on warships. But using the height value listed in the recognition manual you get incorrect ranges (for example, the manual states the Mogami cruiser height as 100-something feet, while the top of the funnel is only 65 or so). Are we supposed to just use the top of the highest mast, despite what the manual and the tooltip says? I've searched through this thread and found that this question has been asked a couple times, but not answered. Thanks, --NoJoe

02-23-11, 05:13 PM	#11
qjp Watch Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 15 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	To fitzcarraldo, I think jrex53 was talking about this mod http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=151158 Cheers!