US Bans smoking on submarines

August · 02-14-11, 02:02 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110214/...smokeless_subs

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By ERIC TALMADGE, Associated Press Eric Talmadge, Associated Press – Mon Feb 14, 5:41 am ET YOKOSUKA, Japan – As if life on a submarine wasn't already stressful enough, with its cramped quarters, long work hours and weeks at sea, thousands of smokers on the U.S. Navy's submarine fleet recently got an unwelcome ultimatum from Uncle Sam.
As of last month, all submarines in the U.S. Navy are officially smoke free — and it's been a tense transition.

Tense as a mooses butt during fly season i'll bet!

Takeda Shingen · 02-14-11, 02:07 PM

Well, I'm sure that someone will come along and complain about the hated 'PC-ness' with the statistic that the air on US submarines is completely filted over something like 800,000 times per hour, but I think it's good that non-smokers don't have to worry about breathing in someone else's carcinogens all the same.

UnderseaLcpl · 02-14-11, 02:19 PM

......And smokeless tobacco wins again!

Jimbuna · 02-14-11, 03:40 PM

I appreciate smokers won't be happy but surely they saw this coming

bookworm_020 · 02-14-11, 06:14 PM

Hope there is free nicotine patches for hands that need them, otherwise conditions could get really bad....

Ducimus · 02-14-11, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bookworm_020

Hope there is free nicotine patches for hands that need them, otherwise conditions could get really bad....

Dip and Chewing tabacco will substitute. Their's more nicotine in that anyway.

(Ex tabacco user myself. I've dipped snuff, chewed tabacco, and smoked. Don't anymore, but when i in the service i did)

Bubblehead Nuke · 02-14-11, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Well, I'm sure that someone will come along and complain about the hated 'PC-ness' with the statistic that the air on US submarines is completely filted over something like 800,000 times per hour, but I think it's good that non-smokers don't have to worry about breathing in someone else's carcinogens all the same.

I hate to break it to you, but cigarette smoke might as well be the 'breathe of life' itself when compared to the OTHER carcinogens that are in the atmosphere on board.

The chemicals used in the CO2 scrubbers is NASTY, the diesel fumes, the oil fumes from the various lubricants used throughout the boat. Lets not start on the monopropellants used in the torpedoes.

Did you know that a can of pressurized SHAVING CREAM has enough contaminates that technically you should surface ventilate should you shave your face.

How about that waxing of the decks that you do underway?

I WISH I could tell you about some of the stuff we had back aft.

I could go on and on and on.

The ban on smoking is a PC move. Nothing more.

Takeda Shingen · 02-15-11, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead Nuke

I hate to break it to you, but cigarette smoke might as well be the 'breathe of life' itself when compared to the OTHER carcinogens that are in the atmosphere on board.

The chemicals used in the CO2 scrubbers is NASTY, the diesel fumes, the oil fumes from the various lubricants used throughout the boat. Lets not start on the monopropellants used in the torpedoes.

Did you know that a can of pressurized SHAVING CREAM has enough contaminates that technically you should surface ventilate should you shave your face.

How about that waxing of the decks that you do underway?

I WISH I could tell you about some of the stuff we had back aft.

I could go on and on and on.

The ban on smoking is a PC move. Nothing more.

Called it.

Bubblehead Nuke · 02-15-11, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Called it.

You baited it..

...I just gave my two cents.

Takeda Shingen · 02-15-11, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead Nuke

You baited it..

...I just gave my two cents.

It was a prediction; nothing more. 11 years of reading GT and things become pretty formulaic. Your two cents are always welcome, though.

Spoon 11th · 02-15-11, 04:42 PM

Electric cigarettes FTW.

Takeda Shingen · 02-15-11, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Spoon 11th

Electric cigarettes FTW.

I see commercials for them, but is their second hand 'smoke' safe? Everything that I have read about them is pretty ambiguous in that regard.

Bubblehead Nuke · 02-15-11, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

I see commercials for them, but is their second hand 'smoke' safe? Everything that I have read about them is pretty ambiguous in that regard.

Seeing how the carrier fluid is propylene glycol, there is nothing too toxic about them. At least not compared to may other airborne contaminates. The carrier fluid contains nicotine that is vaporized and thus inhaled. There are no tars or other toxic gases released

My wife moved over to them about a year ago. The house smells MUCH better and there is much left 'dust' and such in the computer cases. I much prefer them to the real thing (speaking as a non-smoker).

She tried to quit using various aids. She had HORRIFIC nightmares and othe side effects. She was actually afraid to go to sleep. She found the smokeless cigarettes soon aftwerwards.

Skybird · 02-15-11, 07:16 PM

Russian navy is cursing - nicotine scanners of theirs all of a sudden rendered useless!

TLAM Strike · 02-15-11, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Russian navy is cursing - nicotine scanners of theirs all of a sudden rendered useless!

So that is what these sensors on the Akula were for!

I wonder if our Vodka detecting sensor net is still in operation?

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