[REL] A Fistful of Emblems

Poacher886 · 02-09-11, 05:26 PM

My god, finally i've got it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Unbeliveably i was making many mistakes and by reading your original instructions about 5 pages back its worked!!!

Basically mistake No:

1. I was'nt disabling the fistfull mod first Doh!
2. I was just droping it in the pile and not copying a name of an existing file for it to replace (maybe this isn't necessary as someone said, but replacing U-201.dds with my file named the same has worked!.

Thanks for your patience everyone especially stoianm, i got there in the end.

Now, ive selected it as my new Emblem and equipted my boat with it, i then took a walk down the jetty to view it but my boat still has my old emblem on it? im guessing the new one will appear when i start a new patrol yes?

Also, thinking the bits aon the side of the emblem that i cut away to make it look a bit beaten have left a nice shinny white patch!, what im wanting to do, is colour those bits with a light crey similar to my U-boat to cover them, but im worried that if i open my file in Paint.net i will once again be faced with the size problem??

stoianm · 02-09-11, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poacher886

My god, finally i've got it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Unbeliveably i was making many mistakes and by reading your original instructions about 5 pages back its worked!!!

Basically mistake No:

1. I was'nt disabling the fistfull mod first Doh!
2. I was just droping it in the pile and not copying a name of an existing file for it to replace (maybe this isn't necessary as someone said, but replacing U-201.dds with my file named the same has worked!.

Thanks for your patience everyone especially stoianm, i got there in the end.

Now, ive selected it as my new Emblem and equipted my boat with it, i then took a walk down the jetty to view it but my boat still has my old emblem on it? im guessing the new one will appear when i start a new patrol yes?

Here i do not understand

- to chose a new emblem you must to be in bunker and after that you normaly go in the patrol - how you choosed the emblem and you say that after you will start a new patrol you will see the emblem. you are losing me here

Also, thinking the bits aon the side of the emblem that i cut away to make it look a bit beaten have left a nice shinny white patch!, what im wanting to do, is colour those bits with a light crey similar to my U-boat to cover them, but im worried that if i open my file in Paint.net i will once again be faced with the size problem??

you can rework your jpeg and send to me and i will send you the dds

Poacher886 · 02-09-11, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stoianm

you can rework your jpeg and send to me and i will send you the dds

Basically i am in the bunker. I have selected my Emblem and equipted my boat with it, it shows my emblem as the one selected in the upgrades panel.

I then came out of the upgrades panel and walked down the peir/jetty to look at my conning tower in the pen, but my old emblem is still on the boat!, what im thinking is when i start a new patrol (and teleport to boat) it will then show on my U-boat.

I've just taken a copy of my emblem and opened it in Paint.net. I made some adjustments to the cut away bits on the sides (coloured them shades of grey), then i saved with default dds settings (i.e i didn't touch anything) and once again my emblem is back to 32.1kb !!!!!

Remember this is a copy to test with, i have not screwed with the one in the game...thanks for the offer of doing it for me, but i dont want to have to bother you every time i want to do a new emblem, why is it that i cant seem to size it to 85.4kb regardless of leaving the sizes untouched??

What do i need to do?

Thanks

stoianm · 02-09-11, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poacher886

Basically i am in the bunker. I have selected my Emblem and equipted my boat with it, it shows my emblem as the one selected in the upgrades panel.

I then came out of the upgrades panel and walked down the peir/jetty to look at my conning tower in the pen, but my old emblem is still on the boat!, what im thinking is when i start a new patrol (and teleport to boat) it will then show on my U-boat.

I've just taken a copy of my emblem and opened it in Paint.net. I made some adjustments to the cut away bits on the sides (coloured them shades of grey), then i saved with default dds settings (i.e i didn't touch anything) and once again my emblem is back to 32.1kb !!!!!

Remember this is a copy to test with, i have not screwed with the one in the game...thanks for the offer of doing it for me, but i dont want to have to bother you every time i want to do a new emblem, why is it that i cant seem to size it to 85.4kb regardless of leaving the sizes untouched??

What do i need to do?

Thanks

i oped the jpeg file and i choose to resize as i told you 256x256 and also maintain the aspect ratio (important)
i save the jpeg like this
i convert the jpeg in dds and when it asking me what setings i want to use i play with those settings until i have 85.5 size

Poacher886 · 02-09-11, 05:50 PM

Ok i'll try, the best i got before was 64kb, but i'll have another go,

Edit: yes its the same game, DXT3 and DXT5 give you 64.1kb, others give you 128kb and 256kb, but regardless of which i choose once i've saved it and hover my mouse over the file on my desktop its always 32.1kb?

I;ll have to play again tomorrow, its getting late.

WillyVic · 02-10-11, 01:50 AM

Poacher,

When you save it as a DXT3 file make sure you save the mip maps with it. This will give you the 86KB size.

I highly recommend getting DXTBMP program. It will heal all your ills with DDS conversions. You set your default paint program, export the dds file to it, make your changes, save it, and import it back into DXTBMP then save. It is a very user friendly program. I have been using it for years.

Link:
http://www.btinternet.com/~mnwright/programs/dxtbmp.htm

Hope this helps a bit.
WV

Poacher886 · 02-10-11, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WillyVic

Poacher,

When you save it as a DXT3 file make sure you save the mip maps with it. This will give you the 86KB size.

I highly recommend getting DXTBMP program. It will heal all your ills with DDS conversions. You set your default paint program, export the dds file to it, make your changes, save it, and import it back into DXTBMP then save. It is a very user friendly program. I have been using it for years.

Link:
http://www.btinternet.com/~mnwright/programs/dxtbmp.htm

Hope this helps a bit.
WV

Thanks,

This is new ground for me...i'll try your program suggestion, though saving mipmaps gives you 86kb you say...but thats not 85.4kb! i though it had to be exact!

Edit: i just quickly tried saving with Mipmaps, and it say's "preview size 85.5kb" perfect. But. once i've saved that and then hover my mouse over the dds file it says 64.1kb!!!

I just used your link and suggested softwre,,,worked first time thanks!!!

Masterchen · 05-25-12, 12:41 PM

Hi there i made a custom painting for my personal emblem but i have problems to edit it to a dds file my painting is size 256x256 and i have it as png and jpg

If someone could edit it for me into a dds file with the exact size to use it in my sh game i would be very happy or at least tell me how i can edit it myself so that it has the size of 85kb or whatever it needs to be

thanks and here are the pictures:

Greatings

gap · 05-25-12, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masterchen

Hi there i made a custom painting for my personal emblem but i have problems to edit it to a dds file my painting is size 256x256 and i have it as png and jpg

If someone could edit it for me into a dds file with the exact size to use it in my sh game i would be very happy or at least tell me how i can edit it myself so that it has the size of 85kb or whatever it needs to be

thanks and here are the pictures:

Greatings

Nice one!

Here's your dds file:
http://www.mediafire.com/?l72umgd91g44h8j

Masterchen · 05-25-12, 02:41 PM

thank you gap it works but there is still a ugly backround in it if you could do the same with the png so that i have a transparant backround it would be awsome and thanks very much for the work you allready did

Greatings

gap · 05-25-12, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masterchen

thank you gap it works but there is still a ugly backround in it if you could do the same with the png so that i have a transparant backround it would be awsome and thanks very much for the work you allready did

Greatings

Link in post #134 updated.
I had forgot to check the save alpha channel box

Now it should work.
Let me know anyway!

Masterchen · 05-25-12, 03:29 PM

thank you verry much working now

Just a question if you have the time could you explane whoch program you use for change png into dds and how you can exactly make the file 85.4kb big

with big greatings Masterchen

gap · 05-25-12, 04:06 PM

Personally I am using PhotoShop CS5 Extended 64 bit, with the latest Nvidia plugins. With the appropriate plugins, Gimp and Paint.net support as well the dds format, though I think I've read somewhere that their management of alpha channels is not as intuitive as the one of Photoshop. I can be wrong anyway, as I am not a regular user of those programs.

As for dds settings, I use:

DXT5 ARGB 8 bpp | interpolated alpha
Generate Mipmap

There is another program I use for viewing compression settings of existing dds files. It is called The Compressonator. It got limited editing options, but it comes handy when you want to view the compression type of stock dds files, if you want to keep the same settings for your custom textures.

Indeed you might want to change those settings, since the use of not perfectly optimized textures in stock SH5 is suspected to be one of the reasons of its bad performances and low fps.

I hope I replied to your question. Don't exitate to ask for further support, if you need it!

05-25-12, 12:41 PM	#8
Masterchen Seaman Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 38 Downloads: 111 Uploads: 0	edit into dds Hi there i made a custom painting for my personal emblem but i have problems to edit it to a dds file my painting is size 256x256 and i have it as png and jpg If someone could edit it for me into a dds file with the exact size to use it in my sh game i would be very happy or at least tell me how i can edit it myself so that it has the size of 85kb or whatever it needs to be thanks and here are the pictures: Greatings __________________

05-25-12, 02:41 PM	#10
Masterchen Seaman Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 38 Downloads: 111 Uploads: 0	thank you gap it works but there is still a ugly backround in it if you could do the same with the png so that i have a transparant backround it would be awsome and thanks very much for the work you allready did Greatings __________________

05-25-12, 03:29 PM	#12
Masterchen Seaman Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 38 Downloads: 111 Uploads: 0	thank you verry much working now Just a question if you have the time could you explane whoch program you use for change png into dds and how you can exactly make the file 85.4kb big with big greatings Masterchen __________________

02-09-11, 05:26 PM	#1
Poacher886 Chief Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Highlands UK Posts: 323 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	My god, finally i've got it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Unbeliveably i was making many mistakes and by reading your original instructions about 5 pages back its worked!!! Basically mistake No: 1. I was'nt disabling the fistfull mod first Doh! 2. I was just droping it in the pile and not copying a name of an existing file for it to replace (maybe this isn't necessary as someone said, but replacing U-201.dds with my file named the same has worked!. Thanks for your patience everyone especially stoianm, i got there in the end. Now, ive selected it as my new Emblem and equipted my boat with it, i then took a walk down the jetty to view it but my boat still has my old emblem on it? im guessing the new one will appear when i start a new patrol yes? Also, thinking the bits aon the side of the emblem that i cut away to make it look a bit beaten have left a nice shinny white patch!, what im wanting to do, is colour those bits with a light crey similar to my U-boat to cover them, but im worried that if i open my file in Paint.net i will once again be faced with the size problem??

02-09-11, 05:50 PM	#5
Poacher886 Chief Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Highlands UK Posts: 323 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	Ok i'll try, the best i got before was 64kb, but i'll have another go, Edit: yes its the same game, DXT3 and DXT5 give you 64.1kb, others give you 128kb and 256kb, but regardless of which i choose once i've saved it and hover my mouse over the file on my desktop its always 32.1kb? I;ll have to play again tomorrow, its getting late.

02-10-11, 01:50 AM	#6
WillyVic Mate Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 59 Downloads: 130 Uploads: 0	Poacher, When you save it as a DXT3 file make sure you save the mip maps with it. This will give you the 86KB size. I highly recommend getting DXTBMP program. It will heal all your ills with DDS conversions. You set your default paint program, export the dds file to it, make your changes, save it, and import it back into DXTBMP then save. It is a very user friendly program. I have been using it for years. Link: http://www.btinternet.com/~mnwright/programs/dxtbmp.htm Hope this helps a bit. WV

05-25-12, 04:06 PM	#13
gap Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: CJ8937 Posts: 8,215 Downloads: 793 Uploads: 10	Personally I am using PhotoShop CS5 Extended 64 bit, with the latest Nvidia plugins. With the appropriate plugins, Gimp and Paint.net support as well the dds format, though I think I've read somewhere that their management of alpha channels is not as intuitive as the one of Photoshop. I can be wrong anyway, as I am not a regular user of those programs. As for dds settings, I use: DXT5 ARGB 8 bpp \| interpolated alpha Generate Mipmap There is another program I use for viewing compression settings of existing dds files. It is called The Compressonator. It got limited editing options, but it comes handy when you want to view the compression type of stock dds files, if you want to keep the same settings for your custom textures. Indeed you might want to change those settings, since the use of not perfectly optimized textures in stock SH5 is suspected to be one of the reasons of its bad performances and low fps. I hope I replied to your question. Don't exitate to ask for further support, if you need it!