Unions Head for Showdown With Senate Over TSA Representation

Growler · 02-07-11, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky

Essential services usually have a no-strike clause in their contract, and I guess better working conditions can lead to increased productivity. I'd say that the air transport security industry is one where you'd want to have more than minimum-effort working.

While I understand what it is you're saying, I also can vividly recall the near-chaos in the US when the air traffic controllers walked early in the 80's - another place where you'd expect better than minimum effort.

I've also seen many a TSA "agent" who really called into question the validity of the entire effort: slovenly, unkempt, inattentive, lackadaisical... and more than one story has been released of things that just should not have gotten by making it to the aircraft - things like .40 cal handguns. I would argue that the quality of work needs to vastly improve before we even allow the discussion of the idea to unionize the current crop of TSA clowns.

Why is it that we entrust national security to the hands of 18 year olds only after a minimum of eight weeks of intense basic training, but we hire rent-a-cop rejects on the basis of the warm-body principle, then wonder why TSA gets bad press?

Gerald · 02-10-11, 05:05 PM

Trying to quell concerns over his decision to let security officers vote on whether they want unions to represent them, Transportation Security Administration chief John Pistole told lawmakers Thursday he would be "willing" to fire TSA employees en masse should they go on strike or cause a slowdown in operations.

In a "determination" released Friday, Pistole said he has "given careful thought to the question of union representation" and would allow a vote "under specific conditions that protect security," requiring that any bargaining be at the national level and restricted to only certain employment issues, including attendance guidelines, transfers and awards. Officers could not bargain on security policies and procedures, pay or job qualifications, and would be "strictly" prohibited from "striking or engaging in work slowdowns of any kind," according to TSA.

http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/20...en-masse-if-ne

Note: Update Record,February 10, 2011

Growler · 02-10-11, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendor

Trying to quell concerns over his decision to let security officers vote on whether they want unions to represent them, Transportation Security Administration chief John Pistole told lawmakers Thursday he would be "willing" to fire TSA employees en masse should they go on strike or cause a slowdown in operations.

In a "determination" released Friday, Pistole said he has "given careful thought to the question of union representation" and would allow a vote "under specific conditions that protect security," requiring that any bargaining be at the national level and restricted to only certain employment issues, including attendance guidelines, transfers and awards. Officers could not bargain on security policies and procedures, pay or job qualifications, and would be "strictly" prohibited from "striking or engaging in work slowdowns of any kind," according to TSA.

http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/20...en-masse-if-ne

Note: Update Record,February 10, 2011

So firing them en masse is good for national security how? Preventing them from walkouts benefits the rest of us in what way? Christ, what's worse: Nobody flies because TSAs walked, or TSA agents who are allowed to walk, but who are so upset they would have, instead working with that attitude in a job that requires vigilance and attention to detail?

Who's running this thing? Jeez.

Tchocky · 02-10-11, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Growler

While I understand what it is you're saying, I also can vividly recall the near-chaos in the US when the air traffic controllers walked early in the 80's - another place where you'd expect better than minimum effort.

Believe me, that was the case and industry I was thinking about when I posted

FIREWALL · 02-10-11, 06:03 PM

They should be dealt with like the ATC was.

Some jobs just aren't meant for unionizing.

Gerald · 02-10-11, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL

They should be dealt with like the ATC was.

Some jobs just aren't meant for unionizing.

What job do you mainly thinking of?

Tchocky · 02-10-11, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL

They should be dealt with like the ATC was.

Some jobs just aren't meant for unionizing.

We're unionised and also the most productive centre in Europe

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