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Old 02-04-11, 08:32 PM   #1
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As I recall, Godwin's law only describes the correlation between the length of the debate and the likelyhood of Nazis being invoked.

I think you meant 'August's Law'.
Two pages isn't sufficient?

Then how about:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_Hitlerum
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Old 02-04-11, 08:39 PM   #2
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Two pages isn't sufficient?

Then how about:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_Hitlerum
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There are many corollaries to Godwin's law, some considered more canonical (by being adopted by Godwin himself) than others. For example, there is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically "lost" whatever debate was in progress. This principle itself is frequently referred to as Godwin's law. It is considered poor form to raise such a comparison arbitrarily with the motive of ending the thread. There is a widely recognized corollary that any such ulterior-motive invocation of Godwin's law will be unsuccessful.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

To be fair (and clear), all I was trying to say was that Godwin's Law itself doesn't say anything about losing the argument just by bringing up Hitler. That is arguably true, but Godwin didn't say it.
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Old 02-04-11, 08:42 PM   #3
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break it up now old guys

[conspiracy rant]It is really possible that wikileaks falsely leaked false information regarding assange's charges, to get sympathy. After all, they already have enough "street cred"[/conspiracy rant]
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Old 02-04-11, 09:19 PM   #4
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

To be fair (and clear), all I was trying to say was that Godwin's Law itself doesn't say anything about losing the argument just by bringing up Hitler. That is arguably true, but Godwin didn't say it.
A mere detail. Comparing my simple statement that I think Assange is a criminal to stopping concentration camp survivors pretty much counts, as the wiki quote you posted clearly shows:

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there is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically "lost" whatever debate was in progress. This principle itself is frequently referred to as Godwin's law.
See? I'm just following established forum tradition here!
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Old 02-04-11, 09:23 PM   #5
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Well, here's an older one: YOU'RE WRONG, JUST 'CAUSE I SAYS SO!!!
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See? I'm just following established forum tradition here!
well, needing to rely on "forum tradition" does say something about the validity of your arguments, doesn't it? IMO it's quite a bit cowardly to do so, and personally I think someone using Godwin's law to try to "win" a discussion should automatically lose it.

No matter in which words you pack it, Godwin's law doesn't say anything about the real validity of ones arguments.
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well, needing to rely on "forum tradition" does say something about the validity of your arguments, doesn't it? IMO it's quite a bit cowardly to do so, and personally I think someone using Godwin's law to try to "win" a discussion should automatically lose it.

No matter in which words you pack it, Godwin's law doesn't say anything about the real validity of ones arguments.
I'm glad you think so. That says a lot about you too.
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