Hi, are you British? - Page 2

jumpy · 02-03-11, 07:13 PM

On all of these damn 'equality and positive discrimination' forms you get with council paperwork and some job agencies there's about 10 million different ethnic categories to cover every possible variant of race and culture to promote 'inclusiveness', unless you're English... the choice for you is always 'White - British'.
I routinely put my mark next to the box 'Other', then in the space provided write 'English'. I was born in England, not Scotland, Wales, or that other place with all of the trouble

I don't get really bent out of shape by it, but everyone else gets a special label, so why shouldn't I positively discriminate my englishness on the stupid PC forms?
We're a mongrel lot here in the UK anyways, depends on how far back into history you want to take it, but I always go for where you were born as a safe bet on nationality - simplifies things somewhat.

Gotta keep those age old traditions alive, you know... Besides, how would the english know that they were better people than the miserly scots or the sheep-shagging welsh, if we were not constantly reminding ourselves and our western and northern cousins of the fact?

STEED · 02-04-11, 07:29 AM

The English are the most downtrodden nation and p****d off with life.

The Scottish are to busy drinking, smoking and eating themselves to death.

The Irish tell great jokes.

The Welsh shag sheep all day long before dieing of some filthy disease.

And the EU rules this country upsetting most of the nation.

Tchocky · 02-04-11, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED

The Irish tell great jokes.

We've actually upgraded to *being* a joke now.

02-04-11, 07:43 AM

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We've actually upgraded to *being* a joke now.

We always was, its just gone very public now.

Herr-Berbunch · 02-04-11, 07:47 AM

I think the stereotyped-phrase you're looking for is 'to be sure!'

papa_smurf · 02-04-11, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED

The English are the most downtrodden nation and p****d off with life.

The Scottish are to busy drinking, smoking and eating themselves to death.

The Irish tell great jokes.

The Welsh shag sheep all day long before dieing of some filthy disease.

And the EU rules this country upsetting most of the nation.

Spot on, but don't forget the differences in England's many counties, each of which has its own "in-jokes".

XabbaRus · 02-04-11, 07:49 AM

Well although born in England, my mum is half Irish and I've spent most of my UK resident life in Scotland so when I'm asked what I am I say British.

I feel British and that is how I define my cultural outlook and behaviour.

I would say I'm British first and English second if pushed and can't see what the point of getting wound up about the forms ask.

Basically once the vested interests get over how stupid they sound thumping their own nationalist chest and realise the reason they have what they have is due to a UNITED kingdom of Britain then the better.

STEED · 02-04-11, 07:49 AM

Baring the dipsticks who fudge up Ireland the bankers and politicians who have no sense of humour what so ever and could not organize a gang bang in a brothel or a p*** up in a brewery.

Hang on sounds like our lot!

Herr-Berbunch · 02-04-11, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by papa_smurf

Spot on, but don't forget the differences in England's many counties, each of which has its own "in-jokes".

I've met two girls from Cornwall who both had webbed feet - no joke

UnderseaLcpl · 02-04-11, 09:59 AM

Bloody English. Scotland is not, has never been, and will never be a part of anything related to England. I know this because my extremely vociferous Scottish elders have been drumming it into my head for as long as I can remember and still won't shut up about it.

Scotland has long upheld a proud tradition of not being England in pretty much every way they can manage. Sure, they fought alongside the English from time to time, but that's because they wanted to fight and knew the English were too prissy to handle it on their own. Sure, they accepted an economic and political union with England, but that's only because they were tired of killing the English. Sure, England had a pretty impressive empire, but the Scots didn't need one because Scotland is the most perfect place on Earth.

And they wonder why I don't call them more often.

Herr-Berbunch · 02-04-11, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

Bloody English. Scotland is not, has never been, and will never be a part of anything related to England. I know this because my extremely vociferous Scottish elders have been drumming it into my head for as long as I can remember and still won't shut up about it.

Scotland has long upheld a proud tradition of not being England in pretty much every way they can manage. Sure, they fought alongside the English from time to time, but that's because they wanted to fight and knew the English were too prissy to handle it on their own. Sure, they accepted an economic and political union with England, but that's only because they were tired of killing the English. Sure, England had a pretty impressive empire, but the Scots didn't need one because Scotland is the most perfect place on Earth.

And they wonder why I don't call them more often.

I concur that it is a beautiful place and for a holiday in the next couple of years I plan on sailing the Caledonian Canal with the family, I got married at Gretna (can't just turn up now so we booked three weeks in advance!) and I spent a few years skiing in the Caingorms when I was at school. But like the rest of the British Isles (that includes London)(and France!

) it's let down by some of the people.

Oh well, holidaying in Cleethorpes from now on then

frau kaleun · 02-04-11, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

And they wonder why I don't call them more often.

Because it's long distance and nobody's willing to accept the charges?

Herr-Berbunch · 02-04-11, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by frau kaleun

Because it's long distance and nobody's willing to accept the charges?

UnderseaLcpl · 02-04-11, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by frau kaleun

Because it's long distance and nobody's willing to accept the charges?

Actually, they all live in the US. Go figure.

XabbaRus · 02-04-11, 01:57 PM

Actually, I also find that in Scotland there is in some cases a large chip.

Better qualify that statement.

I don't mind patriotism or nationalism - though I feel there is negative stigma attached to that word, of course depends who uses it - but in Scotland the brand of nationalism that has come about with the SNP is the blame England for anything.

So if Alex Salmond can't get his way, it is Englands fault. If something goes wrong with the Scottish economy, it's Englands fault. That is what I meant by a big chip, on certain shoulders. I must also say though I have never been picked on because I am English and taken part in the usual banter around six nations time. Saying that I am sometimes wary on what I say.

02-03-11, 07:13 PM	#16
jumpy Admiral Join Date: May 2003 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 2,139 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	On all of these damn 'equality and positive discrimination' forms you get with council paperwork and some job agencies there's about 10 million different ethnic categories to cover every possible variant of race and culture to promote 'inclusiveness', unless you're English... the choice for you is always 'White - British'. I routinely put my mark next to the box 'Other', then in the space provided write 'English'. I was born in England, not Scotland, Wales, or that other place with all of the trouble I don't get really bent out of shape by it, but everyone else gets a special label, so why shouldn't I positively discriminate my englishness on the stupid PC forms? We're a mongrel lot here in the UK anyways, depends on how far back into history you want to take it, but I always go for where you were born as a safe bet on nationality - simplifies things somewhat. Gotta keep those age old traditions alive, you know... Besides, how would the english know that they were better people than the miserly scots or the sheep-shagging welsh, if we were not constantly reminding ourselves and our western and northern cousins of the fact? __________________ when you’ve been so long in the desert, any water, no matter how brackish, looks like life

02-04-11, 07:29 AM	#17
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	The English are the most downtrodden nation and p****d off with life. The Scottish are to busy drinking, smoking and eating themselves to death. The Irish tell great jokes. The Welsh shag sheep all day long before dieing of some filthy disease. And the EU rules this country upsetting most of the nation. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

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Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	I think the stereotyped-phrase you're looking for is 'to be sure!' __________________

02-04-11, 07:49 AM	#22
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Well although born in England, my mum is half Irish and I've spent most of my UK resident life in Scotland so when I'm asked what I am I say British. I feel British and that is how I define my cultural outlook and behaviour. I would say I'm British first and English second if pushed and can't see what the point of getting wound up about the forms ask. Basically once the vested interests get over how stupid they sound thumping their own nationalist chest and realise the reason they have what they have is due to a UNITED kingdom of Britain then the better. __________________

02-04-11, 07:49 AM	#23
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Baring the dipsticks who fudge up Ireland the bankers and politicians who have no sense of humour what so ever and could not organize a gang bang in a brothel or a p*** up in a brewery. Hang on sounds like our lot! __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

02-04-11, 09:59 AM	#25
UnderseaLcpl Silent Hunter Join Date: May 2008 Location: Storming the beaches! Posts: 4,254 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Bloody English. Scotland is not, has never been, and will never be a part of anything related to England. I know this because my extremely vociferous Scottish elders have been drumming it into my head for as long as I can remember and still won't shut up about it. Scotland has long upheld a proud tradition of not being England in pretty much every way they can manage. Sure, they fought alongside the English from time to time, but that's because they wanted to fight and knew the English were too prissy to handle it on their own. Sure, they accepted an economic and political union with England, but that's only because they were tired of killing the English. Sure, England had a pretty impressive empire, but the Scots didn't need one because Scotland is the most perfect place on Earth. And they wonder why I don't call them more often. __________________ I stole this sig from Task Force

02-04-11, 01:57 PM	#30
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Actually, I also find that in Scotland there is in some cases a large chip. Better qualify that statement. I don't mind patriotism or nationalism - though I feel there is negative stigma attached to that word, of course depends who uses it - but in Scotland the brand of nationalism that has come about with the SNP is the blame England for anything. So if Alex Salmond can't get his way, it is Englands fault. If something goes wrong with the Scottish economy, it's Englands fault. That is what I meant by a big chip, on certain shoulders. I must also say though I have never been picked on because I am English and taken part in the usual banter around six nations time. Saying that I am sometimes wary on what I say. __________________