Internet Explorer Users Beware! - Page 2

krashkart · 02-01-11, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by the_tyrant

Really mate?
Text only?
sure its possible, and i can use windows command prompt and linux but suggesting that we stop using the gui is absurd

He's hardcore, all-the-way console. I had my dog days there a few years back - nothing really beats it.

Erm, except getting outside on a regular basis.

That was a shot at myself, not MaddogK.

Sailor Steve · 02-01-11, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MaddogK

Really, I'm not judging you or anyone else.
Why are you so defensive ?

He wasn't being defensive. He was responding directly you this

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I love these threads because it pulls the MS stockholders and devs out of the woodwork.

which sounds like an accusation that the only people who will support IE on a thread is and MS stockholder or dev. That deserves exactly the response it recieved.

antikristuseke · 02-03-11, 05:11 PM

Just use Opera, it's secure, looks nice and is very functional.

Skybird · 02-03-11, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by antikristuseke

Just use Opera, it's secure,

http://www.vupen.com/english/advisories/2011/0189

I read about critical security holes in Opera at least every 2 months. That statistically mit scores relatively few security problems becoming relevant is for the same reason as why Macintosh browsers are much more unsecure than Windows 7, but still score lower hits on emerging problems: Macs have a market share of just 8% or so, and Opera of even less: I think 3% or less. It is not interesting for hackers to develope attack tools for opera, or Mac: too few targets out there. Give it 30%, and you will see it getting under fire.

CaptainHaplo · 02-03-11, 08:00 PM

Want to be secure? I'll do for you all what I did on a security consult one day years ago and I won't even charge you all for it! Realize, this was back before wireless really kicked on. A business owner had only a few employees, but was worried about getting "hacked". So he calls and asks for a security audit. I oblige, and offer him a number of options that would mitigate his risk and insure he was upholding his due diligence responsibility. When he heard "mitigate risk" he stopped me and said he wanted to be IMMUNE to being hacked over the internet. I chuckled silently and then told him I could to that for $250 dollars, and I could guarantee he could not be hacked via a "public" net connection.

He said "really?" and wrote me a check on the spot. I thanked him, walked into where his router was, and disconnected the cable from his CSU/DSU. Of course, no work outside the office could be done now. No email, no phone (VOIP was in use), etc. He started up with "That isn't what I want, I can't do business this way!". I plugged him back in, and then proceeded to explain that no network - if it touches the rest of the world, can ever be 100% guaranteed safe.

You want to be truly secure? Get of the net. Otherwise, use common sense, stay up to date with software patches, secure your networks (ESPECIALLY wireless) and use good strength or better passwords.

Platapus · 02-03-11, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

You want to be truly secure? Get of the net. Otherwise, use common sense, stay up to date with software patches, secure your networks (ESPECIALLY wireless) and use good strength or better passwords.

Which is why I hate the current trend of requiring internet connectivity to play video games.

Just last weekend, I wanted to take a break from my dissertation. I was in the mood to play Fear 2. Great game.

I bought it. I have the disks, I even have the product code. I don't steal games.

Could I play it? Nope. Even though I had the disks, somehow I needed to connect to Steam. Why? Dunno. Well I connected with Steam but Steam would not accept my product code. Told me it had already been registered. Well that makes sense as I played the game before. But I could not install the game because it already had been installed.

Tried to contact the world famous Steam support. Been a week and still no reply (besides I needed to get back to my dissertation).

I want my game machine to be secure but the software companies require me to have internet connectivity for a standalone client based computer game.

I like your idea of being off the net, but the industry does not agree with you.

Sorry, just had to rant. Had one evening "free" to play some video games and I couldn't play a game I bought and had the disks for.

antikristuseke · 02-03-11, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

http://www.vupen.com/english/advisories/2011/0189

I read about critical security holes in Opera at least every 2 months. That statistically mit scores relatively few security problems becoming relevant is for the same reason as why Macintosh browsers are much more unsecure than Windows 7, but still score lower hits on emerging problems: Macs have a market share of just 8% or so, and Opera of even less: I think 3% or less. It is not interesting for hackers to develope attack tools for opera, or Mac: too few targets out there. Give it 30%, and you will see it getting under fire.

Every browser has vulnerabilities and im not surprised that you hear about opera ones every now and again. Still it is one of the more secure browsers out there.
also if you pay attention you will notice this little thing there

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Changelog

2011-01-21 : Initial release
2011-01-27 : Updated Solution

So withing 6 days of the issue being reported it was patched.

papa_smurf · 02-04-11, 07:18 AM

Yet another nail in the IE coffin, glad I switched to Firefox when I did

STEED · 02-04-11, 07:53 AM

There is only 100% way to be safe...Never ever go on the Internet.

papa_smurf · 02-04-11, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED

There is only 100% way to be safe...Never ever go on the Internet.

And deprive yourself of the wonder that is Subsim?

Sailor Steve · 02-04-11, 11:27 AM

"You can have safe, or you can have Subsim. Never count on having both at once."
-Robert A. Heinlein.

Well, actually his words were "peace" and "freedom", but that wouldn't make much sense in this context. I took some liberties. Sue me!

UnderseaLcpl · 02-04-11, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Well, actually his words were "peace" and "freedom", but that wouldn't make much sense in this context. I took some liberties. Sue me!

Believe it or not, you could be sued for that.

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Originally Posted by STEED

There is only 100% way to be safe...Never ever go on the Internet.

Says the guy who completely disappeared for several months and then showed up again. You're about as 100% safe as abstinence.

STEED · 02-04-11, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

"You can have safe, or you can have Subsim. Never count on having both at once."

You can, use someone else's computer.

And never use yours on the net.

Arclight · 02-04-11, 06:48 PM

Meh. Bet that 99.9% of the affected users aren't and never will be aware of the issue, simply because they don't experience any issues.

02-03-11, 08:00 PM	#20
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,405 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Want to be secure? I'll do for you all what I did on a security consult one day years ago and I won't even charge you all for it! Realize, this was back before wireless really kicked on. A business owner had only a few employees, but was worried about getting "hacked". So he calls and asks for a security audit. I oblige, and offer him a number of options that would mitigate his risk and insure he was upholding his due diligence responsibility. When he heard "mitigate risk" he stopped me and said he wanted to be IMMUNE to being hacked over the internet. I chuckled silently and then told him I could to that for $250 dollars, and I could guarantee he could not be hacked via a "public" net connection. He said "really?" and wrote me a check on the spot. I thanked him, walked into where his router was, and disconnected the cable from his CSU/DSU. Of course, no work outside the office could be done now. No email, no phone (VOIP was in use), etc. He started up with "That isn't what I want, I can't do business this way!". I plugged him back in, and then proceeded to explain that no network - if it touches the rest of the world, can ever be 100% guaranteed safe. You want to be truly secure? Get of the net. Otherwise, use common sense, stay up to date with software patches, secure your networks (ESPECIALLY wireless) and use good strength or better passwords. __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

02-04-11, 07:18 AM	#23
papa_smurf Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2,851 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	Yet another nail in the IE coffin, glad I switched to Firefox when I did __________________

02-04-11, 07:53 AM	#24
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	There is only 100% way to be safe...Never ever go on the Internet. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

02-04-11, 11:27 AM	#26
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	"You can have safe, or you can have Subsim. Never count on having both at once." -Robert A. Heinlein. Well, actually his words were "peace" and "freedom", but that wouldn't make much sense in this context. I took some liberties. Sue me! __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

02-04-11, 06:48 PM	#29
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Meh. Bet that 99.9% of the affected users aren't and never will be aware of the issue, simply because they don't experience any issues. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

02-03-11, 05:11 PM	#18
antikristuseke Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Estland Posts: 4,330 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Just use Opera, it's secure, looks nice and is very functional.