A new kind of ace pilot...

[CptSimFreak]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Well against a foe like China armed drones would give us an edge, and of course the drone has its own sensors to get an ID and since its a lot smaller than a manned aircraft it can get closer to a potential enemy fighter with less risk of being detected.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

There is a Russian saying - If grandma had balls, she would be a grandpa.

If this if that... If China didn't have anti-sat tech and if you could get real-time-no-delay image not through a straw. That's too many IFs.

[Molon Labe]

What happens when you get your Predator shot down? Is that a sad day? Do you cry a little? Or do you just say "F___ it, I'm gonna get a cup of coffee."

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by CptSimFreak

You have no idea what you're talking about.

There is a Russian saying - If grandma had balls, she would be a grandpa.

If this if that... If China didn't have anti-sat tech and if you could get real-time-no-delay image not through a straw. That's too many IFs.

Excuse me Mr. 428 Posts?

I've already said plenty on the subject of ASAT warfare...

Shooting down/hard kill a low altitude recon bird is very different than taking out a GPS or SATCOM bird which are in much higher orbits; Comsats are up at 36,000 km, GPS is slightly lower at 20,000 km, recon birds like to hang out at around 400 km. That extra 30,000 km in alt gives huge space to maneuver.

Plus drones can be controlled line of sight (DASH anyone?), an AWACS type controller aircraft at 30,000 feet could feasibly have LOS RF control of a drone 200 miles away. And one drone at the same altitude could be a rely to others...

Originally Posted by Molon Labe

What happens when you get your Predator shot down? Is that a sad day? Do you cry a little? Or do you just say "F___ it, I'm gonna get a cup of coffee."

I insert another quarter...

[CptSimFreak]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Excuse me Mr. 428 Posts?

I've already said plenty on the subject of ASAT warfare...

Shooting down/hard kill a low altitude recon bird is very different than taking out a GPS or SATCOM bird which are in much higher orbits; Comsats are up at 36,000 km, GPS is slightly lower at 20,000 km, recon birds like to hang out at around 400 km. That extra 30,000 km in alt gives huge space to maneuver.

Plus drones can be controlled line of sight (DASH anyone?), an AWACS type controller aircraft at 30,000 feet could feasibly have LOS RF control of a drone 200 miles away. And one drone at the same altitude could be a rely to others...



I insert another quarter...

What does my post count have anything to do with this? What kind of flawed logic is that? Don't be a dushbag. Mkay?

If AWACS is a HVLD assets, which it is, then why is freaking technology from ping-pond era (with no plans to change)? Do you really think that you can stick GCS into already heavily loaded airplane and expect a pilot to use Cband and arrive to a perfect SA required for fighter pilot? Do you really think ATO would allow that kind of ROE?

Educate your self a bit on UAS. Start from FM3-04.15 on unclassified level and then go to a vault if you have the need to know.

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by CptSimFreak

If AWACS is a HVLD assets, which it is, then why is freaking technology from ping-pond era (with no plans to change)? Do you really think that you can stick GCS into already heavily loaded airplane and expect a pilot to use Cband and arrive to a perfect SA required for fighter pilot? Do you really think ATO would allow that kind of ROE?

I guess Boeing didn't get that memo. They are flight testing the Blk 40/45 E-3s right now with full deployment expected in 2016.

Or maybe you have heard of a little plane known as the E-2D Advanced Hawkeye? Back in 2009 it did almost exactly what I'm talking about! It detected and tracked a LACM then engaged it with a SM-6 (guided by the E-2D) deployed from a another asset. AEGIS ships are already built to do this and have been from the beginning, why else would the Spruances be equipped to fire SM-2s!

Yea I do know what I'm talking about...

[CptSimFreak]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Yea I do know what I'm talking about...

No you don't. I'll leave it at that.

If you have a .mil we can discuss it there.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by CptSimFreak

What does my post count have anything to do with this? What kind of flawed logic is that? Don't be a dushbag. Mkay?

If AWACS is a HVLD assets, which it is, then why is freaking technology from ping-pond era (with no plans to change)? Do you really think that you can stick GCS into already heavily loaded airplane and expect a pilot to use Cband and arrive to a perfect SA required for fighter pilot? Do you really think ATO would allow that kind of ROE?

Educate your self a bit on UAS. Start from FM3-04.15 on unclassified level and then go to a vault if you have the need to know.

That is about as arrogant and dismissive a post as I've read in some time. Disagree and argue all you want, but don't tell people they don't know what they're talking about, and don't be calling them names (by the way, it's "douchebag"). Insulting people and talking down to them makes your own arguments less believable.

Please tone it down a bit.

[Ducimus]

Predator Eulogy

Dos Gringos rip up the Predator UAV.


US Air Force Predator recruiting video

[Molon Labe]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Predator Eulogy

Dos Gringos rip up the Predator UAV.

...Is where my 'sad day/cup of coffee' remark came from.