China fakes air force training video with clips from Top Gun

Bort · 01-28-11, 03:12 AM

Really, China? Did you not think that one of the millions of people who have seen Top Gun wouldn't notice that the footage looks too good to be from anything except, say, a movie? Or that the footage was used with hardly any visual alterations? For shame.

http://gizmodo.com/5745307/did-china...-force-footage

Gargamel · 01-28-11, 04:31 AM

Almost as bad, the USAF's IMAX movie I saw at the Air Force Museum in Dayton a couple years ago. It was so cheesy I almost asked for my money back. You'd think with all the cool things the air force can do for real, they wouldn't have to resort to cheap CGI effects.

AS for China, I'd think that they'd just assume since most of their population hasn't seen Top Gun. They also probably didn't think nobody would notice the difference between a Chinese fighter and a F5 (those are right?

IF not).

Betonov · 01-28-11, 04:39 AM

IF the footage is good, why not. I heard that the street shooting scene in HEAT is used by the marines as a textbook retreat under enemy fire

But these communists have a habit of taking movies and showing them to their people that this is actually real. I wonder if they seen star wars

Skybird · 01-28-11, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Betonov

IF the footage is good, why not. I heard that the street shooting scene in HEAT is used by the marines as a textbook retreat under enemy fire

Good movie, good scene. But I wonder if it really is a good idea to take it for real life education. Thats like taking the scene of the bride versus the crazy 88 for sword fighting excercises.

the_tyrant · 01-28-11, 08:34 AM

well you know, its not like China's film industry could do any better:

find the mistakes

Growler · 01-28-11, 09:12 AM

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find the mistakes

Maybe we should try for "find the things they did right." It'll use less bandwidth for a far shorter list.

Betonov · 01-28-11, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Growler

Maybe we should try for "find the things they did right." It'll use less bandwidth for a far shorter list.

strange, I guess I'm missing something. Where are the mistakes

OK, first pic it looks like they borrowed the weapons from an airsoft club, it's a mismatch of german/american/chineese weapons from cold war/WW2...

And third pic, the wrapping areound the gun prevents from repeating the weapon, its wrapped around the bolt

Kaye T. Bai · 01-28-11, 09:46 AM

YouTube videos.

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OK, first pic it looks like they borrowed the weapons from an airsoft club, it's a mismatch of german/american/chineese weapons from cold war/WW2. And third pic, the wrapping areound the gun prevents from repeating the weapon, its wrapped around the bolt

Crye Multicam... IN WWII?

Growler · 01-28-11, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Betonov

strange, I guess I'm missing something. Where are the mistakes

OK, first pic it looks like they borrowed the weapons from an airsoft club, it's a mismatch of german/american/chineese weapons from cold war/WW2...

And third pic, the wrapping areound the gun prevents from repeating the weapon, its wrapped around the bolt

Pic 1: For starters: Uniforms are not even close. Camo netting. Black boots. Weapons assortment is way off.

Pic 2: Ammo bandoleers are wrong. Top-feeding magazine LMG not in US WW2 arsenal. No rank insignia on anyone's uniform.

Pic 3: Simplest issue - he isn't going to do much good with a plugged barrel on that carbine. Camo pattern not US. Helmet not US.

TLAM Strike · 01-28-11, 10:46 AM

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Pic 1: For starters: Uniforms are not even close. Camo netting. Black boots. Weapons assortment is way off.

Pic 2: Ammo bandoleers are wrong. Top-feeding magazine LMG not in US WW2 arsenal. No rank insignia on anyone's uniform.

Pic 3: Simplest issue - he isn't going to do much good with a plugged barrel on that carbine. Camo pattern not US. Helmet not US.

Well that and all the troops are Asians in US Uniforms with Airborne Patches...

(Yes I know there was a Japanese-American Division in Europe...)

TLAM Strike · 01-28-11, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Gargamel

AS for China, I'd think that they'd just assume since most of their population hasn't seen Top Gun. They also probably didn't think nobody would notice the difference between a Chinese fighter and a F5 (those are right?

IF not).

Shenyang J-5 also called the Shenyang F-5 for export....

An easy mistake to make for those unfamiliar with aircraft. Jane's Combat Simulations did just that a long time ago...

razark · 01-28-11, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Shenyang J-5 also called the Shenyang F-5 for export....

An easy mistake to make for those unfamiliar with aircraft. Jane's Combat Simulations did just that a long time ago...

Umm..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_F-5

Growler · 01-28-11, 11:40 AM

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Well that and all the troops are Asians in US Uniforms with Airborne Patches...

Well, pretend US uniforms. I don't see an American flag on there anywhere - just some "Shield logo thingie" on the right shoulders.

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(Yes I know there was a Japanese-American Division in Europe...)

Mr. Miyagi's unit - 442nd Regimental Combat Team. VERY highly decorated unit.

Growler · 01-28-11, 11:41 AM

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Umm..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_F-5

Yeah, I think he misunderstood your comment about the F-5 acting as the fictional MiG-28 in Top Gun.

Sailor Steve · 01-28-11, 12:01 PM

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Yeah, I think he misunderstood your comment about the F-5 acting as the fictional MiG-28 in Top Gun.

On the other hand that's an old tradition. In The Hunters they used F-84-Fs as MiG-15s.

01-28-11, 03:12 AM	#1
Bort Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Studying in Atlanta Posts: 919 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 0	China fakes air force training video with clips from Top Gun Really, China? Did you not think that one of the millions of people who have seen Top Gun wouldn't notice that the footage looks too good to be from anything except, say, a movie? Or that the footage was used with hardly any visual alterations? For shame. http://gizmodo.com/5745307/did-china...-force-footage __________________ GT Aerospace

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Gargamel Lucky Sailor Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Rome Posts: 4,273 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	Almost as bad, the USAF's IMAX movie I saw at the Air Force Museum in Dayton a couple years ago. It was so cheesy I almost asked for my money back. You'd think with all the cool things the air force can do for real, they wouldn't have to resort to cheap CGI effects. AS for China, I'd think that they'd just assume since most of their population hasn't seen Top Gun. They also probably didn't think nobody would notice the difference between a Chinese fighter and a F5 (those are right? IF not). __________________ Luck is a residue of Design.

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Betonov Navy Seal Join Date: May 2009 Location: Slovenia Posts: 8,647 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	IF the footage is good, why not. I heard that the street shooting scene in HEAT is used by the marines as a textbook retreat under enemy fire But these communists have a habit of taking movies and showing them to their people that this is actually real. I wonder if they seen star wars