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Old 01-27-11, 12:14 PM   #11
Gryffon300
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Default SS & KF, Uriah Heep has arrived for a visit....

Well, here's my moment of obsequiousness. Now, don't hit me. I want to talk about (says it really fast, hoping no-one will notice) "englishnames.cfg".

Ahhgh! Not again!

Sorry, but I've just spent many hours looking at lists of ship names and I figure I should spread the joy around. It WAS in fact fascinating, and gave me a little hint at the work involved in putting the original list out there, and the subsequent editing. WOW.

But, a few niggling uncertainties that I hope you won't mind looking into for me:-

1)- KF & SS, I'm ducking under my desk as I ask this, hoping not to have a horned helm thrown in my direction, but, KF stated in response to an earlier post,

Quote:
"But you don't need two entries for one class, so for M10A you want only one entry, either

M10A=Medium Merchant 10

or

M10A=Hog Islander

but not both. I don't think it makes any difference which you choose, pick whichever one you think will look cool when it shows up in the game."
(01-25-2011 09:58 AM)

I've had a reasonable hunt through the original and SS's August .cfg lists. The old list had a class designation, "KMSSHogIsland", with 160 ship names listed, including, of course, the namesake vessel, 'SS Hog Island'. On the other hand, the new SS list contains a listing for 'KMSSHogIsland' (slightly smaller at 135 names, but mostly identical, except, strangely, that it DOES NOT include the SS Hog Island for which the class was presumably named!? )

But, the new SS cfg list ALSO includes, of course, the M10A list, (38 ships) with apparently no ship names in common with the new HogIsland class list, (Chickasaw & Chickasaw City get close, though). So, cringing slightly & wringing my hands in the best Dickensian immitation that I can muster as I say this, it would appear to my untutored eye that the two Class Lists in the new SS cfg are NOT interchangeable and shold BOTH be included in the SHIII/Data/Sea/englishnames.cfg file. ("M10A=Medium Merchant" & "Hog Islander=Hog Islander", or, alternatively, "Hog Islander=Medium Merchant"?)

And just where has the SS Hog Island got to, eh? Eh? Don't tell me The Hog caught religion and became the Hoosier!






2)- SS, So many mods and tweaks to the list!
  1. I see where whole lists were re-designated (in the Header for e.g. LSS=KSS, or OTMST2 becomes GenericMerchantsAndTankers), some lists thus got wiped, others got added to or ships shuffled into or out of lists to and from existing lists, but one anomaly I don' get. The ships in the replaced KSS list seem to have vanished. I did a scan for the SS Bonifacio & SS Ciltvaria & couldn't spot them. Assume these 16 ships no longer listed?
  2. Similarly, the ATug list has gone AWOL (but I did not scan as carefully for them, so they may simply have been ingested by other classes).
  3. The NPL_KDF Class list (previously with 7 ships listed) now stands vacant of ship names. This is the only time this occurs, so seemed to be an anomoly. Delete?
  4. Historically, were there ever any names given to S-Class subs?
  5. Just as a note of personal interest, I now live near, and visit, the Algonquin National Park. Interesting to spot TWO ships - LTR SS Algonquin & KSSJ SS Algonquins. Would both ships have been contemporaneous, or would one have been named after the first was no longer in service/sunk?
Can I come out from under the desk now?
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