German U-Boat UC/42 Rediscovered in Cork Harbour

Growler · 01-26-11, 11:53 AM

After so many teams have dived Titanic, and I've heard nothing in the 20-some years since it was found, I'm going to assume no, but that's only an assumption.

There's a picture in Ballard's Titanic book of two shoes laying side by side, heel-to-heel, as they might have laid down there as the body inside them disintegrated; that picture has stuck with me.

Cameron and his crew never reported remains when they dove the wreck for his movie, and salvors have gone down there as well. I'd have thought that and remains discovered would have elicited some media response.

But, like you said, they did find remains on Hunley, in far warmer water than the deep north Atlantic, where the marine life would be far more abundant. As I'm not a marine biologist, I can only speculate.

August · 01-26-11, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Growler

Cameron and his crew never reported remains when they dove the wreck for his movie, and salvors have gone down there as well. I'd have thought that and remains discovered would have elicited some media response.

Eh you're probably correct, unless I suppose the announcing the discovery of human remains could possibly complicate salvage rights.

Sailor Steve · 01-26-11, 12:16 PM

An amazing find, and an interesting discussion. I don't have any ideas or suggestions, but you've all presented enlightening ideas.

Growler · 01-26-11, 12:30 PM

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Eh you're probably correct, unless I suppose the announcing the discovery of human remains could possibly complicate salvage rights.

Hadn't thought of that; did it do so for the Hunley salvage? Makes sense that it could.

So here's a question - why was Hunley salvaged, and not treated as a war grave, but the one we're discussing here is considered such? Is it because there's only one nation involved in the case of the Hunley, and two sovereign nations for the U-boat?

August · 01-26-11, 12:44 PM

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Hadn't thought of that; did it do so for the Hunley salvage? Makes sense that it could.

So here's a question - why was Hunley salvaged, and not treated as a war grave, but the one we're discussing here is considered such? Is it because there's only one nation involved in the case of the Hunley, and two sovereign nations for the U-boat?

Maybe but the the Hunley actually was treated as a war grave. All the remains that were recovered in the boat when they took the silt out were identified and reburied with full military honors.

http://www.hunley.org/main_index.asp?CONTENT=CREWB

One interesting note is before reburial they made casts of the crews skulls which allowed them to recreate what they looked like in life.

http://www.hunley.org/main_index.asp...CREWB_PROFILES

Don't think i'd want that done to my Great Grandfathers bones...

ETR3(SS) · 01-26-11, 12:49 PM

Leave them there, in their final resting place. Would you remove the dead from the Arizona?

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Sailor Steve · 01-26-11, 01:22 PM

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Don't think i'd want that done to my Great Grandfathers bones...

I would. In the past they used to take 'Death Masks' of the recently departed. I'd love to know what my ancestors looked like.

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Would you remove the dead from the Arizona?

That's actually a tough call for me. If it was a relative of mine, yes I would, but others don't feel the same and their wishes should also be respected. As I said, tough call.

I see nothing wrong with attempting to identify and reinter the remains of the boys who died on that sub so long ago.

August · 01-26-11, 03:56 PM

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I would. In the past they used to take 'Death Masks' of the recently departed. I'd love to know what my ancestors looked like.

I see your point. We have a picture of my Great Grandfather so we don't have to wonder.

Matador.es · 01-27-11, 08:06 AM

Divers ask that maritime grave be respected

Check the link, the divers have their opinion as well.

01-26-11, 11:53 AM	#1
Growler A long way from the sea Join Date: May 2005 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,913 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	After so many teams have dived Titanic, and I've heard nothing in the 20-some years since it was found, I'm going to assume no, but that's only an assumption. There's a picture in Ballard's Titanic book of two shoes laying side by side, heel-to-heel, as they might have laid down there as the body inside them disintegrated; that picture has stuck with me. Cameron and his crew never reported remains when they dove the wreck for his movie, and salvors have gone down there as well. I'd have thought that and remains discovered would have elicited some media response. But, like you said, they did find remains on Hunley, in far warmer water than the deep north Atlantic, where the marine life would be far more abundant. As I'm not a marine biologist, I can only speculate. __________________ At Fiddler’s Green, where seamen true When here they’ve done their duty The bowl of grog shall still renew And pledge to love and beauty.

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Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	An amazing find, and an interesting discussion. I don't have any ideas or suggestions, but you've all presented enlightening ideas. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

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Matador.es Chief Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 327 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	Divers ask that maritime grave be respected Check the link, the divers have their opinion as well.