Request for SH assistance

Gryffon300 · 01-24-11, 12:37 PM

OK, Aanker's Aweigh.
So far:
- clean SHII install + Patch to 1.1 + Project Messerwetzer + SHII High Res Kit + Bergen Art Backgrounds (getting Desperate there) + Pacific Aces + PA PAtch 1.1. Even tried switching on 'Compatibility Mode" for first Win 98, then Win 95 in the Compatibility tab of the Properties window of the shortcut desktop icon. (I'm the most trying bastard around - just ask anyone who knows me - I should be a Beta tester or something!)

At each stage, tested and same corrupted/missing text (even on the Credits). That includes mission briefings and mission summaries. I've done some screenshots, but I don't think it's worth the bandwidth to post(?).

I note that the roll-over's still work, and the in-game starts fine (if you can guess at the right roll-over's & then hit main keyboard 'Enter' leaves you on "Pause" on the bridge, so I'm assuming game play is OK - haven't gone far enough to test for guage corruption yet - maybe one of the manny mod patches would help there??).

Not sure that it's worth persevering though. I think this sub's heading for crush depth. Any ideas on a save that haven't already been canvassed?

One final thought for you Cryptographers out there that understand these new-fangled enigmatic machines we are all wrestling with here: as the program seemed to work fine on this machine's native mother-board graphics, before I went and got the you-beaut new paper & typewriter ribbon, is there anyway (short of un-installing the graphics card) to de-select the new card and utilise the native graphix? Just a thought.

aanker · 01-24-11, 01:28 PM

You're really testing my memory but as I recall you do not need to install the Hi Res because running it through Projekt Messerwetzer lets it run Hi Res.....

This is the 3rd graphics card I am using - the first two were ATI. As I said, this one is NVIDIA and I haven't changed any of SH II PA's graphics settings since the first ATI card. I'm full screen and on an oddball screen setting larger than 1024x768.

This is what I did:

1. Clean Install of SH2, and rename the folder to 'Pacific Aces' or whatever name you prefer.
2. Install the official SH2 Patch 1.1
3. Install Vicker's mods if you want
4. Install Projekt Messerwetzer also helps to avoid some Janus errors
5. Install PA 1.0, pointing to your 'Pacific Aces' folder.
6. Install PA patch 1.1
7. Install new PA Sound 1.1
8. Install Glitche fix patch that includes optional dive bubble for Projekt Messerwetzer
9. Lethal radius mod (used 5 DepthChargeJP*.ADF files)
10. Active sonar hack ... edited the 10 SonarActive, SonaractiveUS, SonaractiveJapan, etc... files.

I didn't change any compatibility sub-menues, just running it straight through Windows XP Pro like you have (I think).

I really am happy it runs because I still enjoy doing a few patrols, just like I still enjoy SHCE to this day for variety even though I have SH4.

The PA team worked hard to make it and they did a great job.

Happy Hunting!

Art

Gryffon300 · 01-24-11, 04:49 PM

Thanks, but I don't think it will help - though I will uninstall and re-install all one last time.

You see, I had no problem with the game in v1.00.06, or patched to v1.1 PRIOR to installing the new graphics card. I hadn't even got around to the Projekt or PA, which I'm sure would have been fine (at least from a stsatic graphics text point of view. The issue came about, and has persisted only AFTER installation of the GeFOrce nVidia card, which now seems to be a common complaint.

Indeed, you may just be lucky with your particular card - it sure seems that way! Short of a patch, or a genius work-around, I don't hold out much hope for using SHII in any variation on this machine - which is pretty uncool.

aanker · 01-24-11, 04:57 PM

Usually when luck is concerned I am un-lucky and never lucky - this is a first for me!

I'm sorry you didn't get it running - yes I've heard Silent Hunter - the older versions - don't like NVIDIA cards, you're right.

Art

Edit: In case you were unaware, you can have both SH II and PA ready to run on your computer and both set up seperately.

After SH II is installed patched, and renamed to Pacific Aces, insert the disk and select Uninstall SH II - the only thing uninstalled is the registry entry that says SH II is installed. You don't lose the renamed install.

Then reboot, insert the disk again, and select "Install Silent Hunter II" and you will have two installs.

I really hope you get it going. I've heard of people going as far as installing a 2nd cheap ATI graphics card just to run these old classics.

01-24-11, 01:28 PM	#2
aanker Pacific Thunder Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yellow Sea Posts: 1,896 Downloads: 236 Uploads: 14	You're really testing my memory but as I recall you do not need to install the Hi Res because running it through Projekt Messerwetzer lets it run Hi Res..... This is the 3rd graphics card I am using - the first two were ATI. As I said, this one is NVIDIA and I haven't changed any of SH II PA's graphics settings since the first ATI card. I'm full screen and on an oddball screen setting larger than 1024x768. This is what I did: 1. Clean Install of SH2, and rename the folder to 'Pacific Aces' or whatever name you prefer. 2. Install the official SH2 Patch 1.1 3. Install Vicker's mods if you want 4. Install Projekt Messerwetzer also helps to avoid some Janus errors 5. Install PA 1.0, pointing to your 'Pacific Aces' folder. 6. Install PA patch 1.1 7. Install new PA Sound 1.1 8. Install Glitche fix patch that includes optional dive bubble for Projekt Messerwetzer 9. Lethal radius mod (used 5 DepthChargeJP.ADF files) 10. Active sonar hack ... edited the 10 SonarActive, SonaractiveUS, SonaractiveJapan, etc... files. I didn't change any compatibility sub-menues, just running it straight through Windows XP Pro like you have (I think). I really am happy it runs because I still enjoy doing a few patrols, just like I still enjoy SHCE to this day for variety even though I have SH4. The PA team worked hard to make it and they did a great job. Happy Hunting! Art __________________ " Bless those who serve beneath the deep,* Through lonely hours their vigil keep. May peace their mission ever be, Protect each one we ask of thee. Bless those at home who wait and pray, For their return by night and day."

01-24-11, 04:57 PM	#4
aanker Pacific Thunder Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yellow Sea Posts: 1,896 Downloads: 236 Uploads: 14	Usually when luck is concerned I am un-lucky and never lucky - this is a first for me! I'm sorry you didn't get it running - yes I've heard Silent Hunter - the older versions - don't like NVIDIA cards, you're right. Art Edit: In case you were unaware, you can have both SH II and PA ready to run on your computer and both set up seperately. After SH II is installed patched, and renamed to Pacific Aces, insert the disk and select Uninstall SH II - the only thing uninstalled is the registry entry that says SH II is installed. You don't lose the renamed install. Then reboot, insert the disk again, and select "Install Silent Hunter II" and you will have two installs. I really hope you get it going. I've heard of people going as far as installing a 2nd cheap ATI graphics card just to run these old classics. __________________ " Bless those who serve beneath the deep, Through lonely hours their vigil keep. May peace their mission ever be, Protect each one we ask of thee. Bless those at home who wait and pray, For their return by night and day." Last edited by aanker; 01-24-11 at 07:59 PM.

01-24-11, 12:37 PM	#1
Gryffon300 Engineer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 213 Downloads: 58 Uploads: 0	OK, Aanker's Aweigh. So far: - clean SHII install + Patch to 1.1 + Project Messerwetzer + SHII High Res Kit + Bergen Art Backgrounds (getting Desperate there) + Pacific Aces + PA PAtch 1.1. Even tried switching on 'Compatibility Mode" for first Win 98, then Win 95 in the Compatibility tab of the Properties window of the shortcut desktop icon. (I'm the most trying bastard around - just ask anyone who knows me - I should be a Beta tester or something!) At each stage, tested and same corrupted/missing text (even on the Credits). That includes mission briefings and mission summaries. I've done some screenshots, but I don't think it's worth the bandwidth to post(?). I note that the roll-over's still work, and the in-game starts fine (if you can guess at the right roll-over's & then hit main keyboard 'Enter' leaves you on "Pause" on the bridge, so I'm assuming game play is OK - haven't gone far enough to test for guage corruption yet - maybe one of the manny mod patches would help there??). Not sure that it's worth persevering though. I think this sub's heading for crush depth. Any ideas on a save that haven't already been canvassed? One final thought for you Cryptographers out there that understand these new-fangled enigmatic machines we are all wrestling with here: as the program seemed to work fine on this machine's native mother-board graphics, before I went and got the you-beaut new paper & typewriter ribbon, is there anyway (short of un-installing the graphics card) to de-select the new card and utilise the native graphix? Just a thought.

01-24-11, 04:49 PM	#3
Gryffon300 Engineer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 213 Downloads: 58 Uploads: 0	Thanks, but I don't think it will help - though I will uninstall and re-install all one last time. You see, I had no problem with the game in v1.00.06, or patched to v1.1 PRIOR to installing the new graphics card. I hadn't even got around to the Projekt or PA, which I'm sure would have been fine (at least from a stsatic graphics text point of view. The issue came about, and has persisted only AFTER installation of the GeFOrce nVidia card, which now seems to be a common complaint. Indeed, you may just be lucky with your particular card - it sure seems that way! Short of a patch, or a genius work-around, I don't hold out much hope for using SHII in any variation on this machine - which is pretty uncool.