Mutiny on the Bou... no, the Gorch F0ck

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by Skybird

I do not know if for navy cadets wanting to become navy officers in the Bundesmarine, service on the GF is mandatory. I think it should not be, but should be a thing of interest only, voluntarily - our frigates do not use sails anymore, nor do our subs.

Well service on such craft is more for learning team work and a group ethic rather than technical skills.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Well service on such craft is more for learning team work and a group ethic rather than technical skills.

http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschla...igung-Tod.html

This ex-cadet rejects your assumption. He confirms what has been leaked in recent days, too: that the conditions aboard are not acceptable and appear to foster a striong discriminationr egime between officers and the core crew on the one side, and the cadets on the other side, who are expected to live in a regime of submission, mobbing and intimidation.

I also take from his words that the service aboard the F0ck ist mandatory if you want to become a Bundesmarine officer.

He says that the conditions aboard are right the opposite of what you pointed at, and that "forming a crew" is not what happens aboard, but that they foster deep divide and separation.

He also said that cadets gets their pockets picked by the core crew, and that stupid traditonal regime casues risks and dangerous situations aboard that are of no training effect and useless aboard modern ships, even more: in the way they get run aboard the F0ck they never would be run aboard the regular navy units, for security concerns.

Finally he points out that in the past few years 8 sailors got killed aboard the GF, whereas amongst all other navy units of the German Bundesmarine, even those serving in conflict zones, nobody got killed.

Sounds nasty.

[Schroeder]

I think we have to do some house cleaning in our armed forces. Things like that have now been uncovered on more than one occasion and not just in the Marine. It seems power leads more often to abuse than one would like...