When should I install Grey Wolves?

desirableroasted · 01-18-11, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Fail

Hi I recently bought SHIII from steam and I am enjoying it but I can't decide if I should install the Grey Wolves mod. I have been reading through the forums and it seems that it makes the game much harder. I'm worried that I might not enjoy the game so much if I get sunk all the time, and since it is through Steam I would have to re-download the game all over again if I don't like it. Would you recommend that I play the normal game a bit more first or should I just install the mod now? Thanks for you help.

I would play the stock game until you feel comfortable and happy with it. Then add a neutral mod such as SH3 Commander, which lets you do stuff like randomize your opening crew, keep records, award medals as you see fit.

When, at some point, the stock game feels too "arcade" like -- you shoot and the target just blows up -- consider GWX.

I would not say GWX makes the game much harder, but it is less forgiving and far more "realistic." For example, stock deck guns can bring down a battleship -- a historical impossibility, and not particularly fun once you have done it. GWX dials that sort of stuff back.

GWX also has a far wider and more realistic range of ships, both naval and merchant, and makes crazy stuff like "harbor raiding" much more difficult.

Until you add it (if ever) it is still a good idea to download the GWX manual. Excellent advice about convoy attacks, etc, which apply even if you are in pure stock.

Good hunting!

sharkbit · 01-19-11, 08:14 AM

I think you'll find yourself getting bored with stock pretty quick.

You won't be dissappointed with GWX. Don't be afraid to try NYGM. I have yet to but I will one day.

Herr-Berbunch · 01-19-11, 08:16 AM

I don't see the point in playing stock, other than to really appreciate GWX more when you do install it. You may as well learn with GWX if you play GWX.

java`s revenge · 01-19-11, 09:22 AM

I recommend to make a copy of silent hunter III and name it
for example sh3bckup.

Schwieger · 01-20-11, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by desirableroasted

For example, stock deck guns can bring down a battleship...

Sandman_28054 · 01-25-11, 06:03 PM

I, on the other hand, haven't had much luck with GWX 3.0.

I have loaded it, but after about the 12th mission, saved games always corrupt, and playing in general locks my 'puter up.

So I don't play it.

Damo · 01-25-11, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandman_28054

I, on the other hand, haven't had much luck with GWX 3.0.

I have loaded it, but after about the 12th mission, saved games always corrupt, and playing in general locks my 'puter up.

So I don't play it.

You should give more details of your problems and your computer specs so maybe we can help you solve those issues instead of blaming GWX as the root cause. No doubt any problems you're experiencing have been discussed on these forums umpteen times before.

Sandman_28054 · 01-26-11, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Damo

You should give more details of your problems and your computer specs so maybe we can help you solve those issues instead of blaming GWX as the root cause. No doubt any problems you're experiencing have been discussed on these forums umpteen times before.

I have an AMD 960 Chipset (2.08 Ghz processor), 160 GB Seagate HD, 2 GB, PC3800 DDR Ram, PNY 512 mb video card, HD Litescribe DVD-RW, Envision 19" Widescreen monitor.

Need more info?

Gargamel · 01-26-11, 06:42 PM

Yes, what circumstances are the saved games corrupting?

What chipset GPU? What OS?

Sandman_28054 · 01-26-11, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Gargamel

Yes, what circumstances are the saved games corrupting?

Usually when I save and exit.

When attempting to load the game, all nothing works. NOTHING!

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What chipset GPU? What OS?

AMD Dual Core 960, 2.08 Ghz.

WinXP Sp3

donw · 04-26-11, 08:37 PM

yesterday would have been good

JK07 · 04-27-11, 01:36 AM

That did it! Thanks again Stokey.

thebigJ_A · 04-27-11, 02:07 AM

I'm a newb who started with GWX, never played stock at all. Can't say I regret the decision.

It's hard, but then, I chose to go near-full realism right out of the gate (I leave on event cam, since I need to see what's happening while I learn). I've added some other mods that give me more tools for plotting and calculating (OLC Gold, ACM+ACM Lite map).

GWX has a lot of optional mods with it, an amazing manual, plus many of the other mods I've seen in the downloads section are either compatible or built specifically for it.

GWX seems similar in concept to the Complete mods for the STALKER games. Those are basically super-vanilla. They fix the bugs, add features that should have been in the game but weren't due to time constraints or whatever (or could have been but weren't due to limitations of technology or whatever), and pretty it up a whole bunch. They're kind of like the game as it should have been, had the developers had infinite time and money.

Any STALKER players here? Does that comparison fit?

01-19-11, 08:14 AM	#2
sharkbit The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,529 Downloads: 334 Uploads: 0	I think you'll find yourself getting bored with stock pretty quick. You won't be dissappointed with GWX. Don't be afraid to try NYGM. I have yet to but I will one day. __________________ “Prejudice is blind. There will always be someone who says you aren’t welcome at the table. Stop apologizing for who you are and using all your energy trying to change their minds. Yes, you will lose friends, maybe even family. But you will gain your self-respect. You will know your worth. Once you have that, nothing can stop you.”

01-19-11, 08:16 AM	#3
Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	I don't see the point in playing stock, other than to really appreciate GWX more when you do install it. You may as well learn with GWX if you play GWX. __________________

01-19-11, 09:22 AM	#4
java`s revenge Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: at periscope depth Posts: 1,204 Downloads: 97 Uploads: 0	I recommend to make a copy of silent hunter III and name it for example sh3bckup. __________________

01-26-11, 06:42 PM	#9
Gargamel Lucky Sailor Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Rome Posts: 4,273 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	Yes, what circumstances are the saved games corrupting? What chipset GPU? What OS? __________________ Luck is a residue of Design.

01-25-11, 06:03 PM	#6
Sandman_28054 Captain Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 547 Downloads: 279 Uploads: 0	I, on the other hand, haven't had much luck with GWX 3.0. I have loaded it, but after about the 12th mission, saved games always corrupt, and playing in general locks my 'puter up. So I don't play it.

04-26-11, 08:37 PM	#11
donw Sonar Guy Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Indiana Posts: 386 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	yesterday would have been good

04-27-11, 01:36 AM	#12
JK07 Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: FL, USA Posts: 5 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	That did it! Thanks again Stokey.

04-27-11, 02:07 AM	#13
thebigJ_A Loader Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 85 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	I'm a newb who started with GWX, never played stock at all. Can't say I regret the decision. It's hard, but then, I chose to go near-full realism right out of the gate (I leave on event cam, since I need to see what's happening while I learn). I've added some other mods that give me more tools for plotting and calculating (OLC Gold, ACM+ACM Lite map). GWX has a lot of optional mods with it, an amazing manual, plus many of the other mods I've seen in the downloads section are either compatible or built specifically for it. GWX seems similar in concept to the Complete mods for the STALKER games. Those are basically super-vanilla. They fix the bugs, add features that should have been in the game but weren't due to time constraints or whatever (or could have been but weren't due to limitations of technology or whatever), and pretty it up a whole bunch. They're kind of like the game as it should have been, had the developers had infinite time and money. Any STALKER players here? Does that comparison fit?