France's National Front picks Marine Le Pen as new head

[STEED]

Keep it in the family.

[the_tyrant]

how can you accuse a french person of being a nazi?

[Schroeder]

Originally Posted by the_tyrant

how can you accuse a french person of being a nazi?

Nazism isn't defined by nationality. It's a political movement that can be practised by people from any nation.

[Skybird]

Disappointment with failing established politics. Decline of social status. State corruption. Policies being run in explciit ignorration of people's will, showing them how meaningless they are to those that lead them.

If reasonability and moderate approaches do not work ands ghet frustrated time and again, people see a grow in their acceptance to turn towards more radical approaches and alternatives.

I see it in myself, too. I am certainly not somebody who would vote for a Nazi party and ligning up with right- or leftwing extremists, but today I am willing to accepot more drastic strategies to certain issues, than I would have thought possible ten and twenty years ago. Because I see the political establishement ruining my country and all Europe since as long as I can remember, and my former good will to try reasonable positions has been ignored and frustrated time and again.

If the mainstream politics don't work, people try something less mainstream. In Germany, we see a rise of the right especially in the former GDR, and in those places that have been disconnected from the improvement of social conditions and economic circumstances (though not exclsuively there). German politicians produce these new rights themselves by having made promises they could not keep and a general failure to push forward certain developement processes (whether this always would have been possible anyway, is something different). Extremists do not just fall down from the sky. They get created by circumstances - or not, they meet a public desire for drastic chnages - or not. It'S in the hands of Germany. As well as it is in the hands of France.

In Germany, as I see it, we fail terribly. We seem to be unfit to erode the basis in situational circumstances that helpsa the right to grow, while we appease and tolerate and whitewash violence being conducted by the left extremists. Some parties and politicians from the Green and the left spectrum even side up with the latter. So why are we surprised by what we get?

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by Schroeder

Nazism isn't defined by nationality. It's a political movement that can be practised by people from any nation.

Yes, definitely true

[Freiwillige]

Many of the Waffen SS troops defending Berlin in the final battle were Walloons (Belgens of French decent) and A few Frenchmen Joined the military ranks of the Third Reich.

[DarkFish]

Originally Posted by Freiwillige

Not if you take Hitler's word. "National Socialism is a Germanic movement, It is not an export." (Based on memory actual wording might be slightly different)

The party is German, yes. But NS as ideology is international. No matter what the Almighty Führer thinks about it.

Originally Posted by Freiwillige

Walloons (Belgens of French decent)

Ehm, not exactly. The Walloons are the inhabitants of Wallonia, the French-speaking part of Belgium.

[nikimcbee]

Vichy?

[Skybird]

Originally, nationalsocialism was an ideology bred by a German workers party, uniting ideologic content from anticommunism, antisemitism, and antidemocratism, and giving harbour to followers of certain other political traditions and also occult sects, namely elites from the fallen Austrian dynasty. But the movement was already popular in Austria before Hitler, an Austrian, transplanted it to Germany, recent historic findings from archives (amongst them film footage showing the ammount of applaus in Austria before Hitler came to Germany) have shown two years ago.

In this, Nationalsocialism originally was a German-Austrian ideologic movement and tradition, comparable to that the socalled black shirts and fascism originally have been linked to a purely Italian movement. During the war, factions in other countries, from France over the Balkans to Scandinavia, also joined it, making Nationalsocialism an intereuropean thing. After the war, even in the victorious nations factions inside their poltical landscape formed up and confessed to Nationalsocialism, including Britain, America, Russia and today even Israel (!, in the main caused by Russian immigrants to Israel, if I remember correctly, but I may be wrong on that detail).

The biggest nationalsocialist community with the greatest global influence and financial power, today is in America. It has taken over the helm from post-war Germany. But Nationalsocialism is existent in varying strength in practically all Western countries, and beyond.

So while having its roots in Germany and Austria, Nationalsocialism today is a truly international thing.

[Freiwillige]

Originally Posted by Schroeder

Nazism isn't defined by nationality. It's a political movement that can be practised by people from any nation.

Not if you take Hitler's word. "National Socialism is a Germanic movement, It is not an export." (Based on memory actual wording might be slightly different)

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by the_tyrant

how can you accuse a french person of being a nazi?

There were all kinds of French nazis.