Veganism

[gimpy117]

Originally Posted by privateer

Nearly all Beef sold in the U.S.A. at Super Markets and such have been
injected or force fed to achive a certain fat content.
They call it marbleing.
The Beef we raise is natural fed and it hardly leaves any fat in a skillet!
The 3 growing now have more land to graze on then I own at home.
And thier own pond is bigger then the lot my Home is on!
When Halloween is over?
We gather pumpkins from people and feed them that also.
They produce very lean Meat.
Much like Elk do.
If the Cattle Industry would stop the crap they do to inflate prices and produce healthy Beef?

you are correct. they are corn fed. The more expensive cuts are surprisingly worse for you. a USDA prime cut will be a calorie bomb, where a USDA inspected will be quite lean. I work at a store called Olesons. A small chain of 5 stores. We grow very very lean buffalo as well. Ground buffalo is 95% lean or so.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by gimpy117

The more expensive cuts are surprisingly worse for you.

No surprise there. Worse for you = more marbled fat = more flavor = higher price.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by privateer

Nearly all Beef sold in the U.S.A. at Super Markets and such have been
injected or force fed to achive a certain fat content.
They call it marbleing.
The Beef we raise is natural fed and it hardly leaves any fat in a skillet!
The 3 growing now have more land to graze on then I own at home.
And thier own pond is bigger then the lot my Home is on!
When Halloween is over?
We gather pumpkins from people and feed them that also.
They produce very lean Meat.
Much like Elk do.
If the Cattle Industry would stop the crap they do to inflate prices and produce healthy Beef?

What you described from the beef industry is a major reason that I stopped eating meat. Today's beef is not the same beef that our fathers and grandfathers ate. Pork and chicken suffer from the same problem. Anymore, unless you grow the animals like you do, it is very difficult to find good, safe meat.

[antikristuseke]

Originally Posted by Blood_splat

I just couldn't work a 10 or 12 hour day and sit down to a vegan meal.

Same here, but make that 12-24 hour days. But to each their own.

[the_tyrant]

why is everyone so caloriephobic?
this very moment i'm stuffing chocolate into my mouth:

[antikristuseke]

I'm not, my daily food consumption averages to arround 4000 calories a day, double that during a 24 hour shift.

How many calories in a Big Mac, a double quarter pounder with cheese, large fries and a large soda?
(That's just lunch mind you)

[the_tyrant]

Originally Posted by privateer

How many calories in a Big Mac, a double quarter pounder with cheese, large fries and a large soda?
(That's just lunch mind you)

thats pretty much my lunch, but add around 200 grams of chocolate truffles

[DarkFish]

Originally Posted by the_tyrant

why is everyone so caloriephobic?

Personally I'm just, like, food phobic Food takes time to prepare, time to eat and even more time if you want it to taste good, and also money to buy. So quite often I simply don't eat until dinner. I just don't get very hungry, and if I do I can ignore it pretty well. I know it isn't very healthy, but well... who cares?

Originally Posted by antikristuseke

I'm not, my daily food consumption averages to arround 4000 calories a day, double that during a 24 hour shift.

And still you're as thin as a sheet of paper

As you could've guessed from what I said above, my calorie intakes are probably below the recommended 2000 (even with beer added) and I've still got a bit of a belly (beer belly most likely). Not that I'm fat, most definitely not, but I'm not extraordinarily slim either.

I also have at lest 4 Snickers bars of the King size version each day.
I just saw that those are rated 500+ calories each.
So I pretty much hit nearly 4000 calories not counting breakfest and dinner.
I won't go into the Beer calories.

[antikristuseke]

Originally Posted by DarkFish

And still you're as thin as a sheet of paper

Yeah, but my body is basically just muscle and bone, there is no real fat tissue to speak of so I'm not too light. Also I do trade a lot of sleep for extra food due to my job, long hours and irregular sleep patern, need energy to keep going. Right now im going to start a 24 hour shift in 3 hours and I have been awake for about 6. before i get sleep i'll have been awake for about 34 hours and even then its only going to be 5 hours of sleep and back to work for anotehr 12.

That being said I also have a quite active lifestyle, i move around a lot. I dont run anymore, but walk a lot and even when siting i cant be still, allways am twisting a pencil between my fingers or something like that.

I feel you on the sleep issue.
I rarely sleep more then 5 hours each nite.
Been that way since I was in the Army for some reason.

And that was 20+ years ago!

I put it down to the Alien Grays messing with me every nite.

[nikimcbee]

I would tag it as a religion. I didn't know there were vegans in Texas?

They were at Waco as I recall?

[jumpy]

Originally Posted by antikristuseke

Yeah, but my body is basically just muscle and bone, there is no real fat tissue to speak of so I'm not too light. Also I do trade a lot of sleep for extra food due to my job, long hours and irregular sleep patern, need energy to keep going. Right now im going to start a 24 hour shift in 3 hours and I have been awake for about 6. before i get sleep i'll have been awake for about 34 hours and even then its only going to be 5 hours of sleep and back to work for anotehr 12.

That being said I also have a quite active lifestyle, i move around a lot. I dont run anymore, but walk a lot and even when siting i cant be still, allways am twisting a pencil between my fingers or something like that.

What the hell do you do that needs you to be awake for that long?
Hopefully it's not anything that requires you to either a) drive b) operate machinery c) have anything that needs more than a half hour of concentration at a time d) be responsible for the safety of others working around you.

I've spent plenty of time in the past with, shall we say, extended patterns of waking and sleeping. When staying awake for more than 24 hours at a time followed by a sleep period of less than 8 hours and repeating, auditory and visual hallucinations and lapses of judgement are always very close by, plus I experience a very short temper and a marked decrease in ability to think clearly and to complete complex tasks.
Shift work with those kind of patterns can be done by sheer willpower alone, but it messes your health up long term; your body and brain have evolved to a day/night cycle for a very good reason. It's another reason sleep deprivation is used to break people down.
I'd be quite concerned with that kind of pressure, unless you're getting amphetamines or something... Not having a dig at you, fella, but that kind of sleep pattern is really not good for you.