Closing the 'Anchor Baby' Loophole

Ducimus · 01-11-11, 07:18 PM

Platapus, I think the point of the angst has flown over your head at 50,000 feet. Go back and reread Teddy Roosevelts quote there. Then take a good look at those pictures, which are just the tip of the iceberg.

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this state is a lost cause."

Well I hope you will pardon some of us who still think the USA

I said this STATE, not this COUNTRY, and California is indeed a lost cause, in more ways then one.

You know what I tell myself? Just to be fair? I tell myself they've decided to tear up the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, and take back some the lands we took from them during the Mexican American war. Seems only fair, doesn't it? In the meantime, i look forward to moving back to the good ole US. I don't much like living in an overcrowded and bankrupt foreign province.

Platapus · 01-11-11, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

Platapus, I think the point of the angst has flown over your head at 50,000 feet. Go back and reread Teddy Roosevelts quote there. Then take a good look at those pictures, which are just the tip of the iceberg.

your point is not that hard to understand. I just don't agree with it.

If you are going to quote TR, you might want to read all that he said

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I don't go so far as to think that the only good Indians are dead Indians, but I believe nine out of ten are, and I shouldn't inquire too closely into the case of the tenth. The most vicious cowboy has more moral principle than the average Indian.

I admire TR for many things, but as an authority on immigration? Nah

Ducimus · 01-11-11, 08:05 PM

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this subject. Immigration is one area where i lean so far to the right, i might as well have scoliosis. I'm fiercely nationalistic.

(edit: when filling out forms and it asks for ethnicity, I always check the "other" box and write in, "American". I never specify Chinese, German, or Cherokee. Which is what my parents backgrounds were.)

tater · 01-11-11, 08:21 PM

I don't think it's just nationalism, I think it is basic fairness. Immigration is a contract. We welcome the (legal) immigrants, and they agree to do their best to become Americans. We offer them our culture, and we happily absorb the parts of their culture we feel are useful. Typically this means their cuisine, and since english loves to steal words, bits of language.

I'm all for the cuisine, and the odd bit of spanglish is fine, too. But they need to become AMERICAN or GTFO.

Illegals should all be ejected. Every single one of them. Amnesty? Sure, we tell them to voluntarily leave, and then we won't discriminate against them if they try again LEGALLY. If they get ejected, they should be disallowed legal entry for the rest of their lives. I'd also let more in legally.

People in a group called "the race" (la Raza) should be treated exactly as we'd treat whites in neo nazi or KKK type organizations.

Aramike · 01-11-11, 10:08 PM

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Sorta like the way Europeans integrated with the Indians?

Yeah, and I bet the Indians were pretty pissed off about it then, but there was little they could do about it.

So, are we wrong to be pissed off about it NOW when there's things that CAN be done?

01-11-11, 08:05 PM	#3
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this subject. Immigration is one area where i lean so far to the right, i might as well have scoliosis. I'm fiercely nationalistic. (edit: when filling out forms and it asks for ethnicity, I always check the "other" box and write in, "American". I never specify Chinese, German, or Cherokee. Which is what my parents backgrounds were.) Last edited by Ducimus; 01-11-11 at 08:18 PM.

01-11-11, 08:21 PM	#4
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	I don't think it's just nationalism, I think it is basic fairness. Immigration is a contract. We welcome the (legal) immigrants, and they agree to do their best to become Americans. We offer them our culture, and we happily absorb the parts of their culture we feel are useful. Typically this means their cuisine, and since english loves to steal words, bits of language. I'm all for the cuisine, and the odd bit of spanglish is fine, too. But they need to become AMERICAN or GTFO. Illegals should all be ejected. Every single one of them. Amnesty? Sure, we tell them to voluntarily leave, and then we won't discriminate against them if they try again LEGALLY. If they get ejected, they should be disallowed legal entry for the rest of their lives. I'd also let more in legally. People in a group called "the race" (la Raza) should be treated exactly as we'd treat whites in neo nazi or KKK type organizations.