'Mother,' 'Father' Changing to 'Parent One,' 'Parent Two' on Passport Applications

[Aramike]

Like bigotry?

Mookie, I think you could use a little help in defining bigotry, as it certainly isn't terminology on a document that identifies a child's parents as "mother" and "father", unless you think that nature really screwed up on that one.

To be honest, I don't see this change as an issue. But it IS yet another example of the minority's imposition of political correctness through obfuscation and dilution of meaning for the sole purpose of avoiding unintentional insult to those who find offense in the traditions of the majority.

So, yet again, we decide to bow to such petty demands rather than insisting that those whiney, self-important, easily-offended individuals grow thicker skin.

Why is it that we insist on changing how the MAJORITY percieves the world rather than insisting the the minority try to simply UNDERSTAND that most of us have different values?

[krashkart]

Fill in the blanks and get on with it. Jesu Christo, does every little thing in life have to be so difficult?

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by Rilder

Personally I would think that "Guardian" would make a better choice of words here. *Shrug*

Yea I agree. I see "Parent or Guardian" on a lot of forms and it makes sense, not everyone was raised by their parents.

For example I was raised mostly by my grandmother until I was about 10.

[Wolfehunter]

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

complete and utter breakdown of American society. Pretty soon robots will be able to be your parents also? What happened to core values, morals, and 'complete' families? Yes I'm an American but every year I see this country going deeper and deeper down the crapper

I actually see people getting tattoos' of bar codes stamped on there arms... hmmm didn't someone do this already?... Oh wait my bad.. They put GPS chips in you or soon will... ya... hopeless..

[antikristuseke]

Oh ****, the world is changing, doom must be upon us all! Give me a ****ing break.

[Gerald]

This is just the beginning....

In a lose context, some days ago two Catholic German cardinals have accused the PC crowd of wanting to homosexualise mankind.

As opposed to a couple of cardinals accused of buggery?

Don't assume this is in response to homosexual couples

Given the bitter nature of some break ups and custody battles you can imagine the complaints recieved from parents who see someone else listed as the mother/father of their child.

But it IS yet another example of the minority's imposition of political correctness through obfuscation and dilution of meaning for the sole purpose of avoiding unintentional insult to those who find offense in the traditions of the majority.

What has this to do with PC? If someone is not the mother/father of a child they should not be listed as the mother/father, it isn't Political Correctness it is just correct.
If you want traditions of the majority you would amend the page to include all the various traditional titles for someone who is not actually the childs mother/father

[the_tyrant]

personally, I actually want to hear what these guys would like to say about this:
troll warning

the Westboro Baptist Church, the world's biggest trolls without question. the third man, you should watch and learn

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Aramike

Mookie, I think you could use a little help in defining bigotry, as it certainly isn't terminology on a document that identifies a child's parents as "mother" and "father", unless you think that nature really screwed up on that one.

I took TDW's little rant as being against gay marriage/gay couples adopting a kid. That's what I was going for there.

So, yet again, we decide to bow to such petty demands rather than insisting that those whiney, self-important, easily-offended individuals grow thicker skin.

The answer to irrational bigotry and intolerance isn't for the victim to grow thicker skin.

Why is it that we insist on changing how the MAJORITY percieves the world rather than insisting the the minority try to simply UNDERSTAND that most of us have different values?

Because hate isn't a value. And as I've said before, if the majority doesn't want to recognize the worth and value and equality of human beings just because they're gay, then yes, that idea needs to be rammed into their heads. Civil rights trudges on, no matter how much people kick and scream and wail against it.

[Safe-Keeper]

Off-the-cuff reply fueled by intolerance and ignorance:

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

complete and utter breakdown of American society. Pretty soon robots will be able to be your parents also? What happened to core values, morals, and 'complete' families? Yes I'm an American but every year I see this country going deeper and deeper down the crapper

Nuanced, rational reply:

Originally Posted by gimpy117

well the thing is too...if I had gotten a passport when i was a minor via my dad and stepmother... I don't really call her my mother. So i can see how even in a situation where it's not a same-sex marriage situation it would be more politically correct.

What a difference between the two. See, folks, sometimes it pays to lay down your zealotry, take a deep breath, and think before you post.

So, yet again, we decide to bow to such petty demands rather than insisting that those whiney, self-important, easily-offended individuals grow thicker skin.

Oh, the irony .

Originally Posted by Penguin

I foresee interesting scenes at the passport office:
"Ok, my name is Bill Bonehead, and I am parent one, as I am the father"
"Hey, I am his mother, so I should be parent one!"
"Nancy, we debated this before! Clerk, write my name under parent one!"
"No way, mofo! Take this:" *bang, bang, bang*

That was my first thought as well.

Personally I would think that "Guardian" would make a better choice of words here. *Shrug*

Yeah, there's that, too.

[antikristuseke]

Originally Posted by Vendor

This is just the beginning....

Whoda thunk it, future society will not remain stagnating in its current state, but it will be different, that is something completely unprecedented in the last 10,000 or so years of written history.

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by Vendor

This is just the beginning....

It is in line with allowing a married woman to keep her sirname on legal and other forms. I was married in 1978 in California where that was recognized, but other states and business forms had no provision for it. The world survived somehow. This is a non-issue.

[Safe-Keeper]

Whoda thunk it, future society will not remain stagnating in its current state, but it will be different, that is something completely unprecedented in the last 10,000 or so years of written history.

We're doomed

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Wolfehunter

I actually see people getting tattoos' of bar codes stamped on there arms... hmmm didn't someone do this already?... Oh wait my bad.. They put GPS chips in you or soon will... ya... hopeless..

In fact, occasionally these things get suggested. In all seriousness. For example, one argument to raise a smoke screen is to have an ID and banking chip in your hand, so that you can pay by laying your hand onto the sanner, and that'S it.

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by antikristuseke

Whoda thunk it, future society will not remain stagnating in its current state, but it will be different, that is something completely unprecedented in the last 10,000 or so years of written history.

Technique is refined and it is something that will shape society, regardless of what citizens have to comment