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Old 01-07-11, 03:28 PM   #1
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I think you Germans should quit pussy footing around and bring back the Iron Cross.
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Old 01-07-11, 03:30 PM   #2
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I think you Germans should quit pussy footing around and bring back the Iron Cross.
That's reserved for times when Germany itself is at stake. "Expeditionary" missions never saw the iron cross. Those were only awarded in 1813-14, 1870-71, 1914-18 and 1939-45, the last ones reissued in the 50ies without a swastika. Colonial endeavors and out of country missions saw the Prussian equivalents of the modern "Ehrenkreuz" (cross of honor)

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Old 01-07-11, 03:56 PM   #3
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I think you Germans should quit pussy footing around and bring back the Iron Cross.
We can't do that. "Outlaws" and motor biker dudes like Hells Angels and also Lemmy from Mötorhead nowadays wear Iron crosses as accessory.

"A "f..k the world" tatoo on his arm- the iron cross is his lucky charm".

You know, of course, why Lemmy from Mötorhead wears an iron cross with the year dates "1914-1916" engraved?

Lemmy: " 'til 1916 the Germans thought they could win the war".
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Old 01-07-11, 04:13 PM   #4
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And....Barack Obama was given a Nobel Prize for nothing.

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Old 01-07-11, 04:20 PM   #5
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Aaah, here goes General Topics down the toilet again.
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Old 01-07-11, 04:24 PM   #6
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Did It ever get pulled out?
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Old 01-07-11, 05:53 PM   #7
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congrats to those guys. Thats also an award on the ribbon bar thats gonna look unique
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Old 01-07-11, 10:54 PM   #8
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congrats to those guys. Thats also an award on the ribbon bar thats gonna look unique
If they can find it amongst all the fruit salad they wear these days.
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Old 01-08-11, 02:25 AM   #9
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congrats to those guys. Thats also an award on the ribbon bar thats gonna look unique
Sad thing is with the order of precedence it will be the last ribbon his rack, generally occupied by the lowest medal/award a soldier receives.

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I think you Germans should quit pussy footing around and bring back the Iron Cross.
In the whole scheme of Imperial Germany awards/orders, the Iron Cross is a pretty low award. Looking at the period from 1600-1918 there are many orders/medals that far outranked the Iron Cross; like the Order of the Black Eagle, Prussian Order of the Red Eagle, Order of the Bear, Order of St. Henry the Lion or even a Hanseaten Cross, etc.. The iron cross has become more of an enigma than a true medal of extraordinary valor. Arguably the most respected and reverred medal Germany has ever awarded is the Pour Le Merite, it ranked about all the RK's and other high orders - much like the Victoria Cross today.

There are several orders of knighthood/aristocracy (Order of the Garter, Order of the Bath) that are very high ranking with some only being given to heads of state, but a Private that went through hell and back and was awarded the Victoria Cross will always outrank Orders that can be given only to kings/queens. Like the Pour Le Merite, Medal of Honor or Victoria cross the award for valor has always outranked any political award/order created no matter how prestigious it may be. Personally I love one of the laurels that comes with the MOH, that anyone wearing the MOH must be saluted first, regardless of rank. Very cool to that a 4 star general is required to salute first a MOH reciepient even he's just an E-1 private.
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Did It ever get pulled out?
No it never pulls out, that's why it keeps spawning threads like this...
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Did I mistate the truth Oberon?
You stated a truth, and then an opinion, in a subject which had nothing to do with either.
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You stated a truth, and then an opinion, in a subject which had nothing to do with either.
Yes. It is as though good will is not permissible according to certain individuals, and that the American political sphere be interjected in all discourse, relevant or not. I think the award a noble act by our German allies.
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Did I mistate the truth Oberon?
Oberon's comment had nothing to do with your comment in itself but more that you persistently seem to try to turn every thread into an Obama-bashing thread, no matter if it's on topic or not. People are getting tired from it.
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Ok then tell us about the worth of Your Military Decorations.
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