Neo-Nazis Reportedly Take Over East German Village

[Schroeder]

As I said, it's a difficult act of balancing. As long as they don't use swastikas and keep their rhetoric free of direct Nazi propaganda there is nothing the law can do against them. That's the downside of freedom of speech. They still do have the same view of the world as the original Nazis but have to hide it behind nicer words and other symbols as the original Nazis. They always try to get as close to the border of what's legal and sound as much as the "originals" as possible without violating laws. Sometimes however they do cross the line and that's when they can be prosecuted. For example for inciting hatred against minorities, glorifying / denying the holocaust (they should really finally make up their minds about that... ), direct praise for nazi leaders etc.

[Growler]

Originally Posted by Schroeder

As I said, it's a difficult act of balancing. As long as they don't use swastikas and keep their rhetoric free of direct Nazi propaganda there is nothing the law can do against them. That's the downside of freedom of speech. They still do have the same view of the world as the original Nazis but have to hide it behind nicer words and other symbols as the original Nazis. They always try to get as close to the border of what's legal and sound as much as the "originals" as possible without violating laws. Sometimes however they do cross the line and that's when they can be prosecuted. For example for inciting hatred against minorities, glorifying / denying the holocaust (they should really finally make up their minds about that... ), direct praise for nazi leaders etc.

Ok, I think I follow. Same thing as here in the states with groups like the KKK - we KNOW you're a bunch of basic thugs, but you've yet to actually cross the line to thuggery, so we have to let you be. And when a member of your group DOES cross, we'll treat that member as the lawbreaker, rather than the group as a whole.

Germany needs to open its society and allow those whose opinions diverge from the usual. What is the fear? That they get trampled again? Don't forget the Mouse that Roared.

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by The Third Man

Germany needs to open its society and allow those whose opinions diverge from the usual. What is the fear? That they get trampled again? Don't forget the Mouse that Roared.

Germany is an open country like many other west countries, and every country has its defects just like humans

[gimpy117]

so wait is this more of a Nazi Woodstock or an actual armed takeover? there is a big difference.

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by gimpy117

so wait is this more of a Nazi Woodstock or an actual armed takeover? there is a big difference.

Sure there Is a difference, but those who live in the country might sit on the best responses

[Reece]

Woodstock! Where's Steve!

[Schroeder]

Originally Posted by gimpy117

so wait is this more of a Nazi Woodstock or an actual armed takeover? there is a big difference.

Haven't heard of any armed take over here. But I do more and more get the feeling that our media isn't reporting things any more that are too...inconvenient.

[Gammelpreusse]

Originally Posted by Schroeder

Haven't heard of any armed take over here. But I do more and more get the feeling that our media isn't reporting things any more that are too...inconvenient.

That's been my point in the Muslim thread. Odd priorities the German media has in the light of those news. But that fits within the development of a raise in nationalism over the last couple months in general.

[Schroeder]

Originally Posted by Growler

Ok, I think I follow. Same thing as here in the states with groups like the KKK - we KNOW you're a bunch of basic thugs, but you've yet to actually cross the line to thuggery, so we have to let you be. And when a member of your group DOES cross, we'll treat that member as the lawbreaker, rather than the group as a whole.

That sums it up perfectly.

[Growler]

Originally Posted by Schroeder

That sums it up perfectly.

As much as I am grateful for our freedoms, sometimes it feels like a rotten way to do business. Nothing like letting the hate build up and fester just because they know how to avert legal catastrophe - then the hate boils over and it's too hard to contain.

But, truth be told, I guess, I would rather deal with it this way than have any dissenting opinion at all squashed by authoritarian governments.

Thanks, Schroeder and Kongo both, for the opportunity to learn a little more.

Let them proceed as they wish. If german society is what it needs to be their actions will be deminised without intervention.