Republicans Take Over House Ready to Spar With Obama

[nikimcbee]

Instead of accusing the GoP of partisanship maybe you guys ought to look at your own partisan spending tendencies that are driving Democrat controlled states like California to financial ruin.

You are right on the money there.

I'll just add the the greedy Public employee unions. They are spending the state of ore-gone into oblivion. Multnomah county (Portland) is a great great example of how eco-greenie-liberal progressivism is nothing less than a tyrannical cancer. These guys deserve what they get.

[nikimcbee]

@ August, how was MA able to get people on the right elected where as the left coast elected the same people in. If it weren't for the tech industry, the West coast would be an economic black hole. Something similar to the rust belt, maybe? What are the mainstays for MA's economy? other than lobstah

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

What are the mainstays for MA's economy? other than lobstah

Mutual fund companies are huge in Mass. Lots of them are based around Boston.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

You are right on the money there.

I'll just add the the greedy Public employee unions. They are spending the state of ore-gone into oblivion. Multnomah county (Portland) is a great great example of how eco-greenie-liberal progressivism is nothing less than a tyrannical cancer. These guys deserve what they get.

And I suppose that you'd hold the answer to be Republican conservatism. It appears that this thesis is about to be put to the test. I am confident in the answer, because we've all seen it happen before. You've got to stop thinking like a partisan. Replacing one set of failures for another gets us nowhere, but gets them all kinds of places. The political elites of both parties and the pundits that spread their propaganda grow fat on our misery.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by gimpy117

Also, the collapse...it isn't necessarily congresses job to keep the pulse on the market. There government agencies that are supposed to keep track of these things...Like the FTC. Who had chairmen who were appointed during the bush administration. where was that oversight by the republican party? Last time I checked congress wasn't the FTC.

Congress holds the nation's purse strings. For better or worse, the federal government and the national economy are fatefully intertwined. So yes, it is one of congress' jobs to monitor the economy. Team D had a major hand in the events leading up to the collapse in 2008. They have also exclusively been at the helm for the past two years. Quite simply, what they are doing is not and has not been working. Like I said to nik, you also must stop thinking like a partisan. As long as we continue to feed the pundit-driven media machine, and see our politics like a sporting event, we will continue to go 'round and 'round with the losers being the American people.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

In the end, nothing will change, SSDD. i'd bet my bottom dollar on that.

I think that would be a safe bet to make, and it neatly sums up the bottom line in the discussion. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

EDIT: Sorry for the triple posting, everybody.

[August]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

@ August, how was MA able to get people on the right elected where as the left coast elected the same people in. If it weren't for the tech industry, the West coast would be an economic black hole. Something similar to the rust belt, maybe? What are the mainstays for MA's economy? other than lobstah

Not sure what you mean. What people on the right? Except for Scott Brown we reelected our Dem governor as well as every Dem congressman including Barney Frank. Extremely disheartening to see the same people who caused the mess get re-elected by this one party state.

Our state economy doesn't really have a mainstay anymore ever since the end of the high tech boom, the so called Mass miracle touted by Dukakis when he was running for president (although it was already falling apart).

If I had to pick something i'd have to say it's the Bio-med industry though we by no means have a lock on it.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by August

I'm not cranky in the least. Believe me, arguing politics on subsim is not something i'm gonna loose sleep over (which i intend to prove just as soon as I submit this reply) if you know what I mean.

I just don't buy your claim of neutrality here. You're acting like I haven't picked up on your political leanings yet in spite of reading literally thousands of your posts over the years. (damn have we known each other that long already?) You confined your criticism to the Republicans like you always do, and only mentioned that "both parties deserve blame" when I called you on it.

FWIW the above is just an observation and should not be construed as being "cranky", "over sensitive" or any other state besides semi-detached bemusement.

You obviously see what you want to see, and therefore your mind is closed and no further discussion is necessary.

[August]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

You obviously see what you want to see, and therefore your mind is closed and no further discussion is necessary.

Ok. Be that way then. It's no skin off my back.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

IEDIT: Sorry for the triple posting, everybody.

What you should be sorry for is shamelessly plagiarizing Pete Townsend, you shameless plagiarizer, you!

Not really, as I'm sure everybody got it. I just wanted to make sure.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

What you should be sorry for is shamelessly plagiarizing Pete Townsend, you shameless plagiarizer, you!

Not really, as I'm sure everybody got it. I just wanted to make sure.

[Armistead]

Been a GOP member most of my life, but have lost all faith in them now. They hide under the banner of serving capitalism, when they really serve elitism and so many fall for it. Corporate america no longer works for americans as it did up until the 80's, yet they make more profits than ever.
Now 1% of americans hold 40% of all wealth with 20% holding 80%. Back in the 70's about 60% of us held all wealth. It should be obvious what happened. We were sold out by politics to serve the rich. Yes, the GOP doe's believe in building a strong middle class...in India and China.

The GOP pretends americans are lazy. They say they don't believe in socialism, but spend more money in the war torn lands giving free services, free education, housing, medical, ect..using no bid contracts to do so. The best way to get affordable or free healthcare is to become a terrorist and get put in gitmo, free dental, operations, ect...Yet the GOP would deny millions of us affordable care. Many thousands die everyday from lack of basic care right here in the US and a few million live in torture from illness they can get no care for. The GOP would rather spend several billion keeping old people alive for another few months rather than spend a few bucks to keep those that could live alive.

They've become corporate ho's, being pimped by large corporations. No, dems aren't much better, except as they sell out to their special interest they see human needs. Problem is to them everything is a human need to be paid for by the taxpayer.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Armistead

Corporate america no longer works for americans as it did up until the 80's, yet they make more profits than ever.

I don't think they ever have, which is why unions came about in the first place. Have you ever read Upton Sinclairs The Jungle?

I agree with your take on them. I just don't think it's anything new.

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by gimpy117

Oh btw. I liked this article. Im sure august won't

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/reagan-insider-gop-destroyed-us-economy-2010-08-10?pagenumber=1

and i don't deny that it takes two to tango...but the republican party has long been spearheading de-regulation, much more so than the democrats.

Good read. Though i doubt some of the folks here will give it much credence because it looks more like a partisian attack, which automatically invalidates it's claims in the eyes of any hardliner republicans. Sadly, the article is most likely correct though.

[gimpy117]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

CThey have also exclusively been at the helm for the past two years. Quite simply, what they are doing is not and has not been working.

You can't just walk up to the recession box and flip the switch to OFF Takeda. the fact of the matter is, These things take time.

But where is the logic anymore? Putting in the same people who caused the mess 2 years later because the other party hasn't been able to fix their mess fast enough? But it figures, we are the United states of amnesia.