RAOBF

[Trevally.]

Originally Posted by toniloCoyote

Hello to everybody in my first post.

Trevally, I've been struggling with the same bug at the same time and in the same way you did, and I've been following your steps in this thread.
I've been trying to find the solution to help you and have hoped that you release the fixed graticules soon, to use them with TDW's UIs and emtguf's optics.

I also have read the Reapers's ERM thread that Magnum pointed to you, after some hours of fighting with the Globin editor searching for some line about ship's length in the .sim files.
Then, I downloaded several tools and 3DS max importers to be able of checking the possible discrepancies between ship's 3D models and the cfg files.

Are you sure that all is OK with these lengths? Should I stop fighting with 3DS and these importers and tools? I'm having too much troubles for doing them to work.

regards.

Hi toniloCoyote and welcome to Subsim

I have finished the graticules for both scope mods.
I think TDW will add them to his next patch or version

I think Reaper may have already gotten this to work with his UI.
Reading his posts - he was trying much the same tests some time ago.

I do think the ships are correct and the biggest problem is people, like me using the wrong camera.cam file - If you use a scope mod, you must get the correct camera.cam.

I have tested the following ships against each other and the AOB and range worked for all apart from the C Tanker (should be 180m ish)

Hog Freighter - 120m - yes
Med Tanker - 111m - yes
Large liner - 173.7m - yes
Large Steamer - 147m -yes
C Tanker - 139.6m - no - 180m

Im not sure why the C Tanker was wrong - typo - could be 179.6m
If there are others it will only be an error from the CFG info -not scale im sure.

I have a good mission saved for testing - I could send it to you if you like.

[TheDarkWraith]

Originally Posted by Trevally.

Hi toniloCoyote and welcome to Subsim

I have finished the graticules for both scope mods.
I think TDW will add them to his next patch or version

I think Reaper may have already gotten this to work with his UI.
Reading his posts - he was trying much the same tests some time ago.

I do think the ships are correct and the biggest problem is people, like me using the wrong camera.cam file - If you use a scope mod, you must get the correct camera.cam.

I have tested the following ships against each other and the AOB and range worked for all apart from the C Tanker (should be 180m ish)

Hog Freighter - 120m - yes
Med Tanker - 111m - yes
Large liner - 173.7m - yes
Large Steamer - 147m -yes
C Tanker - 139.6m - no - 180m

Im not sure why the C Tanker was wrong - typo - could be 179.6m
If there are others it will only be an error from the CFG info -not scale im sure.

I have a good mission saved for testing - I could send it to you if you like.

do we need to update the C Tanker .cfg file then? What is the correct length and what is it's class name (Nxxx)?

[Trevally.]

ClassName=T3Cimmaron
3DModelFileName=data/Sea/NOL_T3Cimmaron/NOL_T03

and lenght is 178.5m (the range of lenghts I got when testing was from 177m to 180m)

Thsnks TDW

[toniloCoyote]

When you see through the periscope you are not seeing a real world's ship, but a 3D model so, to be accurate, I prefer to measure the model I'm seeing.

If you open the Cimmaron GR2 file in the program "Granny Viewer" and activate the Measure Axes, you can see that the length of the ship model is "19.110605m".
In the "File List" tab below, you can see that the original file of developers was "NOL_T03.max" and was modeled with 3D Studio MAX 10 (3Ds 8) with system units of 0.1 units/meter.

So, I understand that the model length in the sim's (SH5) world is 191.106 meters.

My fighting with 3DS max and downloaded plugins is because I have version 2010 of 3DS max, but the plugins only work with v.8, so I will need to build a new plugin or modify and recompile the existing one. In the while, Granny Viewer may be a shortcut.
What do yo think about it?

(again, sorry for my insufficient English)

[Trevally.]

So, I understand that the model length in the sim's (SH5) world is 191.106 meters.

Nice one

can you check on some others too. It would be good to know if they where correct

[toniloCoyote]

Ok. Work in progress...

[TheDarkWraith]

Originally Posted by toniloCoyote

Ok. Work in progress...

I'll hold off v6.3.0 until we get all the ship's lengths accurate that Trevally has questions about

[toniloCoyote]

Length in meters
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NLL - Liberty - 141.496
NKMSS_HogIsland - 122.705


Work still in progress.
Problems to identify folders for:

Med Tanker
Large liner
Large Steamer