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Old 01-01-11, 08:31 PM   #31
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What the... A 120mbit line here cots 26 euros a month. Jeez your are paying outrageously much.
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It's not even Mbytes but Mbits(2 Mbps is only about 240 kBps)


At least it's not capped. Many wireless 3G internet service providers here charge about 20 bucks for a 3Gb cap. 3Gb!!!
A mere 3 Gb for the whole month!!! @%^^%*# [throw shoes]

And it's just about with anything sold here!


I just saw yahoo news that a Jaguar XF is sold about $54,000 presumably in US continent but here it definitely will sell for more than US$200,000

For comparison 50,000 will not even land you a BMW 3 series here. That will cost you more than US$60,000!



Another example is the Benz CLS

Sold in US continent for less than US$50,000 (to my knowledge) but sold here for about US$200,000

And if you see Ferrari or Lambo here you can be sure those people paid for it for about US$500,000...yes even the standard Gallardo or F430.


And ordinary cars cost too much too considering what you're getting and the prices in US continent!
It's not like we only have a ridiculous small piece of land like Singapore.....
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Old 01-02-11, 12:16 AM   #32
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I know

It's not even Mbytes but Mbits(2 Mbps is only about 240 kBps)


At least it's not capped. Many wireless 3G internet service providers here charge about 20 bucks for a 3Gb cap. 3Gb!!!
A mere 3 Gb for the whole month!!! @%^^%*# [throw shoes]

And it's just about with anything sold here!


I just saw yahoo news that a Jaguar XF is sold about $54,000 presumably in US continent but here it definitely will sell for more than US$200,000

For comparison 50,000 will not even land you a BMW 3 series here. That will cost you more than US$60,000!



Another example is the Benz CLS

Sold in US continent for less than US$50,000 (to my knowledge) but sold here for about US$200,000

And if you see Ferrari or Lambo here you can be sure those people paid for it for about US$500,000...yes even the standard Gallardo or F430.


And ordinary cars cost too much too considering what you're getting and the prices in US continent!
It's not like we only have a ridiculous small piece of land like Singapore.....
And here you can get wireless, from $15 (12GB) per month,
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Old 01-02-11, 01:23 AM   #33
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And here you can get wireless, from $15 (12GB) per month,
yea I'd consider that fair price. And to think that most university graduate employee here earn less than US$500.00 a month so you get the picture about our society level of welfare(many graduate employee even live on $200 monthly wage). Americans and Europeans earn more and spend less for most things aside from food.

I don't mean to sound so negative but I can't help feeling whenever I'm in a new car, be that of my brother in law's who's doing pretty well currently or checking out a new car on exhibit that I fail to see where half or more the money has gone to in the car. . Until it came to my understanding that they are sold at much lower prices outside.

It doesn't feel like a car that carries such value when you compare with the amount of money the car is selling and certainly don't look as much as well especially in the inside or interior. And it goes with basically any other car that's being sold today even to the basic small cars. I bet even at half the prices they are selling today, car manufacturers would still reap plenty margin especially if they are mass produced cars.
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Old 01-02-11, 02:21 AM   #34
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On a related note, I received an Ipad for Christmas. Very cool. But I find myself in a technological quandary: I have in my hands, a technological solution, but I don't have a problem this technology can solve. Kinda embarrassing. I find myself in a position of trying to find something this Ipad can do for me.... Which is not exactly how technology is supposed to work.


So my addition would be the 11th way to get the most out of your technology: Make sure you have a technological problem that your new technology can solve for you.

For those with Ipads and an addiction to Uboats, there is an Enigma simulator for the Ipad. Go figure!
My recommendation ( I have an iPhone) is get the netflix app, and all the book apps you can. I prefer the kindle app. At least with these apps, you can entertain yourself (not in the dowly way elither) when your on the go. the ability to watch a movie while sitting outside can be nice at times. There's also a bunch of nice scientific type apps, graphing calculators, unit converters (I do use this during SH3 sessions), etc. I use the AP app for my news, so I dont have to read a paper every day. And discovery news is very good.

Take what you like to do, search for an app to see if it can make if more fun. I downloaded a lot of the readmes for the real nav mods on here, and learned how to use my phone as a "poor man's" (sic) sextant.
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Old 01-02-11, 05:53 AM   #35
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yea I'd consider that fair price. And to think that most university graduate employee here earn less than US$500.00 a month so you get the picture about our society level of welfare(many graduate employee even live on $200 monthly wage). Americans and Europeans earn more and spend less for most things aside from food.

I don't mean to sound so negative but I can't help feeling whenever I'm in a new car, be that of my brother in law's who's doing pretty well currently or checking out a new car on exhibit that I fail to see where half or more the money has gone to in the car. . Until it came to my understanding that they are sold at much lower prices outside.

It doesn't feel like a car that carries such value when you compare with the amount of money the car is selling and certainly don't look as much as well especially in the inside or interior. And it goes with basically any other car that's being sold today even to the basic small cars. I bet even at half the prices they are selling today, car manufacturers would still reap plenty margin especially if they are mass produced cars.
No I do not take a negative part in this, I am fully aware that the prices of various services and goods are different in your country versus country in West.
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Should that also be true of game mods? The modders have to get their money from somewhere.

Most free software is created by programmers who do work for somebody, but also hate the "extras" that come with a lot of commercial programs, so they create a better version on their own time. After fighting with Adobe for the longest time I'm glad to find a PDF reader that doesn't infect my computer with all kinds of extra junk. The only problem I'm having now is that Adobe Reader won't let itself be uninstalled, and I can't figure out how to make it go away.
This is pretty much exactly how I see it. My initial rant was probably a little OTT (And I am biased against Apple thoroughly for my own reasons) but in terms of free versus commercial, what is bundled with your PC should either be included in the cost or freeware. Windows is 'free' in a sense because if you buy a new comp it will come pre-installed already paid for. Imagine if after 30 days windows refused to boot telling you your trial period had expired and you needed to wire £100+ to Microsoft. For me it is the same with internet security/Office suite software. Better the machine came with nothing than a 'trial version' that will expire unless you pay... It is little more than advertising and as such I treat it as junk and remove immediately. If a free piece of software turns out to be crap, so what? If it turns out to be good and you can afford to, then donate. I may at some point in the future decide I would like to 'trial' McAfee Internet security suite, or MS Office 2020, etc... and at that time I will download their trial versions. Until then, leave me alone.

I am not against paid for software, just against pushy marketting which revolves around the fact that a lot of people are unaware that sending a pile of cash to Norton or whoever is unneccessary. There are good freeware alternatives for all mundane computing needs. Specialist stuff it can be advantageous to pay for I.e. Image editing if you are a photographer, Music software for a musician etc... although only because the freeware versions may not quite be up to your specialist needs.

Sorry to hear you're having problems removing Adobe Reader, It is gone from my system now. Foxit works lovely.
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And I am biased against Apple thoroughly for my own reasons
Nothing wrong with a bias against Apple. The day I buy an Apple product is the day I enter the asylum.
Apple products are much less good than their competitor's counterparts, for a much higher prize. Buying an Apple product is not much short of being a thief from your own wallet.

An iPad is maybe even the worst of it all. It's specifications are about as good as those of a modern smartphone (e.g. the Xperia X10, which has more RAM and the same processing power), for a twice as large price. And where the latter has convenient dimensions, the iPad is too large to put in your pocket. If you want a large screen, buy a 3 times better laptop for half the prize. If you want something you can carry with you, buy a just as good smartphone for half the prize.
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My recommendation ( I have an iPhone) is get the netflix app, and all the book apps you can. I prefer the kindle app.
That's my problem, I use my Sony Reader, that I got for my last birthday for my reading. I have transferred all my books to the Ipad, but the Sony is easier to carry around.

So far I have downloaded some game apps and they seem fun.
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