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Old 01-01-11, 11:02 AM   #16
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Sorry to pick nits, but Simon wrote and recorded that song long after he and Garfunkel broke up.
No worries. For some reason, I remembered both of them performing it - the 1981 concert in Central Park album is where I remember hearing it, which threw me off. Appreciate the correction.
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Old 01-01-11, 11:50 AM   #17
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No worries. For some reason, I remembered both of them performing it - the 1981 concert in Central Park album is where I remember hearing it, which threw me off. Appreciate the correction.
Actually that's a good point. Since Paul Simon wrote everything they did anyway (except for some early covers) the fact that they did perform it together at least once makes it valid. It looks like I'm the one who was wrong.
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Old 01-01-11, 11:56 AM   #18
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Actually that's a good point. Since Paul Simon wrote everything they did anyway (except for some early covers) the fact that they did perform it together at least once makes it valid. It looks like I'm the one who was wrong.
Bah. Think of it as, "We're both right" and drink to that.
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Bah. Think of it as, "We're both right" and drink to that.
NO! WE'RE BOTH WRONG! SO THERE!


I'd rather be wrong myself than admit someone else is right? What's with that?
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Old 01-01-11, 12:15 PM   #20
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Call it a draw then you can both send me a cheque by means of a penance
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Call it a draw then you can both send me a cheque by means of a penance
Would you accept a roll of Kodachrome as payment instead????
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Would you accept a roll of Kodachrome as payment instead????
It depends if Jim want's to try to develop kodachrome in is bath tube or not.

Well, at least he can dev as a B&W film!
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Would you accept a roll of Kodachrome as payment instead????
'Kodachrome' Beer will do nicely
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'Kodachrome' Beer will do nicely
How about I send you a Czech instead.
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A Czech? Can't speak for anyone else, but Iran as far away from that as I could.
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The only thing I lament about the death of film is the lack of permanence inherent to digital imagery. I read somewhere that it is estimated that in 50 years there will be more pictures surviving from the Civil War than there will be from those taken today. I don't know how true that is but a hard drive crash or even a single errant mouse click and the digital image is gone whereas film prints and negatives are much more durable.
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The only thing I lament about the death of film is the lack of permanence inherent to digital imagery.
Too true! but the upshot is that more photos are been taken, but less are developed.
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The only thing I lament about the death of film is the lack of permanence inherent to digital imagery.
Properly maintained, a chemical picture can last hundreds of years. The lifespan of a CD or DVD is considerably less.

Film still remains the most efficient way to store that type of data for a long time and in little space.
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Properly maintained, a chemical picture can last hundreds of years. The lifespan of a CD or DVD is considerably less.

Film still remains the most efficient way to store that type of data for a long time and in little space.

In a way one could say that the internet is partially responsible for this. As e-commerce evolved and people started doing and getting used to 1-click shopping they began to expect things to happen faster - they developed a need/dependence on instant gratification.

Film takes time to properly develop (even if you're not doing anything special) where the digital camera's you have within seconds. Its to the point now that people are willing to wait even a hour to get their film developed.
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So what would be the most efficient and long lasting digital image storage method?

Hard disk or Flash drive?

I've heard 50 years for a HDD but the only thing i can find about flash drives is number of write/erase rounds. Nothing about using it as a long term storage device.
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