10 Ways to Get the Most Out of Technology

antikristuseke · 12-31-10, 05:39 PM

Unless it is really made to be free, open source ring a bell?

the_tyrant · 12-31-10, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by antikristuseke

Unless it is really made to be free, open source ring a bell?

Open source is good and all that, but we should still treat opensource software like mods. Its good, but we still can't 100% rely on opensource stuff, especially not “10. In short when you get a new comp, delete EVERY piece of commercial software that was bundled with it and immediately install reputable free equivalents.”

On average, the updates and support for opensource stuff is just not as good as Commercial stuff

More than once I was told that since they gave me the source code, i should fix my own problems.

Also, the drivers we use are still proprietary, so its impossible to not use commercial software

krashkart · 12-31-10, 06:19 PM

Some open source software is very well maintained. But yeah, probably a good majority of OSS is developed in someone's free time and doesn't come with the support staff that a commercial software company would have on hand.

EDIT:

@the_tyrant - Whoever told you to fix the bugs yourself is in no position to be offering a product of any kind without proper PR skillage or at least one person who can carry out support tasks. That's sort of a hiccup with OSS; some devs are more code-minded and don't know how to deal with people. A well staffed dev team will have someone aboard who can liase with the public and offer advice both ways. Sounds like you got the blowoff from someone who knows code, but hasn't fully mastered the art of providing a quality service to their customers.

Platapus · 01-01-11, 10:06 AM

I discovered a technological limitation with my Ipad yesterday.

I decided to take out subscriptions to several of the local news papers. It was supposed to be easy and convenient.

I found out that having puppies poop on your Ipad when it is displaying the newspaper is not a good strategic move.

Sometimes the "older" technology is still the bestest.

Gerald · 01-01-11, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus

I discovered a technological limitation with my Ipad yesterday.

I decided to take out subscriptions to several of the local news papers. It was supposed to be easy and convenient.

I found out that having puppies poop on your Ipad when it is displaying the newspaper is not a good strategic move.

Sometimes the "older" technology is still the bestest.

Above all in many cases, the technology has a different stamina, a bit like a woman actually,

antikristuseke · 01-01-11, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus

I discovered a technological limitation with my Ipad yesterday.

I decided to take out subscriptions to several of the local news papers. It was supposed to be easy and convenient.

I found out that having puppies poop on your Ipad when it is displaying the newspaper is not a good strategic move.

Sometimes the "older" technology is still the bestest.

This brightened my day, thanks for that

the_tyrant · 01-01-11, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krashkart

Some open source software is very well maintained. But yeah, probably a good majority of OSS is developed in someone's free time and doesn't come with the support staff that a commercial software company would have on hand.

EDIT:

@the_tyrant - Whoever told you to fix the bugs yourself is in no position to be offering a product of any kind without proper PR skillage or at least one person who can carry out support tasks. That's sort of a hiccup with OSS; some devs are more code-minded and don't know how to deal with people. A well staffed dev team will have someone aboard who can liase with the public and offer advice both ways. Sounds like you got the blowoff from someone who knows code, but hasn't fully mastered the art of providing a quality service to their customers.

Of course, i'm a huge opensource supporter and occasional contributer too
(I work on ubuntu translation)

but still, opensource is still not enough to replace "every piece of commercial software"

krashkart · 01-01-11, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by the_tyrant

Of course, i'm a huge opensource supporter and occasional contributer too
(I work on ubuntu translation)

but still, opensource is still not enough to replace "every piece of commercial software"

Oh, now I see what you're saying. My "thinking" brain shut down last night.

Definitely not enough to replace all commercial software. At best only a small portion of it can be replaced. It's a pretty good dream but next to impossible to ever accomplish. I mean, I've tried running straight Linux systems to "unchain" myself from the ebil Micro$oft and never could stick to it. Games are an important staple group in my computing environment, and the *NIXes just do not support enough of them to make it worthwhile. I don't even go through the trouble of setting up WINE anymore... for all the time they've spent working on it, it still doesn't run enough Windows programs. There are commercial emulators that do a bettter job.

And of course, as you mentioned before, there is the issue of drivers. That's always been a thorn in my side. I must admit though that some hardware companies are much better with providing Linux modules than they were ten years ago.

the_tyrant · 01-01-11, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by krashkart

Oh, now I see what you're saying. My "thinking" brain shut down last night.

Definitely not enough to replace all commercial software. At best only a small portion of it can be replaced. It's a pretty good dream but next to impossible to ever accomplish. I mean, I've tried running straight Linux systems to "unchain" myself from the ebil Micro$oft and never could stick to it. Games are an important staple group in my computing environment, and the *NIXes just do not support enough of them to make it worthwhile. I don't even go through the trouble of setting up WINE anymore... for all the time they've spent working on it, it still doesn't run enough Windows programs. There are commercial emulators that do a bettter job.

And of course, as you mentioned before, there is the issue of drivers. That's always been a thorn in my side. I must admit though that some hardware companies are much better with providing Linux modules than they were ten years ago.

I wasn't thinking straight yesterday either

anyways, i think React os (http://www.reactos.org/)
is the only non windows os that can actually threaten windows.

I mean, that os is a rewrite of windows, it supports everything windows supports. I think its a great idea, and the idea can really take off if it got the same attention as the bigger opensource projects

Castout · 01-01-11, 07:15 PM

I'm downgrading my internet subscription because the ISP increased the bill from 30 to 40 bucks for a mere 2 Mbps service.

It's day 2 of 2011 I haven't seen the downgrade yet I already called them yesterday saying hey it was still 2Mbps connection. They said they were working on it and I willl only be charged for a 1Mbps service this month(22 bucks).

12-31-10, 06:19 PM	#3
krashkart Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,292 Downloads: 100 Uploads: 0	Some open source software is very well maintained. But yeah, probably a good majority of OSS is developed in someone's free time and doesn't come with the support staff that a commercial software company would have on hand. EDIT: @the_tyrant - Whoever told you to fix the bugs yourself is in no position to be offering a product of any kind without proper PR skillage or at least one person who can carry out support tasks. That's sort of a hiccup with OSS; some devs are more code-minded and don't know how to deal with people. A well staffed dev team will have someone aboard who can liase with the public and offer advice both ways. Sounds like you got the blowoff from someone who knows code, but hasn't fully mastered the art of providing a quality service to their customers. Last edited by krashkart; 12-31-10 at 09:16 PM.

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Castout Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Jakarta Posts: 4,794 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 6	I'm downgrading my internet subscription because the ISP increased the bill from 30 to 40 bucks for a mere 2 Mbps service. It's day 2 of 2011 I haven't seen the downgrade yet I already called them yesterday saying hey it was still 2Mbps connection. They said they were working on it and I willl only be charged for a 1Mbps service this month(22 bucks). __________________ My blog: http://exposingsingapore.wordpress.com/

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antikristuseke Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Estland Posts: 4,330 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Unless it is really made to be free, open source ring a bell?