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Old 12-30-10, 12:46 AM   #1
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Hello

when I save a patrol I have to exit with the return to base option

So when I start SH3Commander again I get the status

In home base before patrol X

If I load the midpatrol via SH3Commander I get unrealistic crew transfers

So when I reload the midpatrol, I start the game via SH3 directly

Is this correct?
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Old 12-30-10, 03:22 AM   #2
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Hello

when I save a patrol I have to exit with the return to base option

So when I start SH3Commander again I get the status

In home base before patrol X

If I load the midpatrol via SH3Commander I get unrealistic crew transfers

So when I reload the midpatrol, I start the game via SH3 directly

Is this correct?
why are you not able to use the "save and exit" option?

If you are saving, then returning to base, then re-loading, I am not surprised that Commander is getting confused.
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Old 12-30-10, 07:20 AM   #3
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why are you not able to use the "save and exit" option?

If you are saving, then returning to base, then re-loading, I am not surprised that Commander is getting confused.
well...I wish to save 2 files, because if one is corrupted the other maybe not and you don't lose the entire patrol

anyway...is there any contrary direction to load midpatrol by sh3 directly?
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Old 12-30-10, 07:31 AM   #4
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well...I wish to save 2 files, because if one is corrupted the other maybe not and you don't lose the entire patrol
Well, then understand that you are not actually saving mid-patrol and that SH3, and SH3Cmdr, will correctly report you as "in base", because returning to base was your last action.

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anyway...is there any contrary direction to load midpatrol by sh3 directly?
See that "?" icon on the main SH3Cmdr screen? Click it and all will be revealed. Of course, it assumes that you save mid-patrols correctly. As you have chosen not to, preferring to return to base to exit your game, then you can either reload SH3 directly as you currently are, foregoing all the benefits of SH3Cmdr, or you can reload through SH3Cmdr, but manually disabling the crew transfers and realistic retirement options.

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Old 12-30-10, 07:58 AM   #5
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Well, then understand that you are not actually saving mid-patrol and that SH3, and SH3Cmdr, will correctly report you as "in base", because returning to base was your last action.


See that "?" icon on the main SH3Cmdr screen? Click it and all will be revealed. Of course, it assumes that you save mid-patrols correctly. As you have chosen not to, preferring to return to base to exit your game, then you can either reload SH3 directly as you currently are, foregoing all the benefits of SH3Cmdr, or you can reload through SH3Cmdr, but manually disabling the crew transfers and realistic retirement options.
well...I load midpatrol saves via sh3 directly, that is the last save before the base to start the new mission

when I return to base at the end of patrol I load end patrol via sh3cmdr

it looks like it works
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Old 12-30-10, 12:13 PM   #6
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well...I load midpatrol saves via sh3 directly, that is the last save before the base to start the new mission

when I return to base at the end of patrol I load end patrol via sh3cmdr

it looks like it works
Be aware, though, that if you have Commander set to Automatic Rollback, it undoes any functionality/options it added to the game for you when you exit the game. If you start SH3 again without going through Commander, you will not have those options during that gaming session as Commander was not allowed to do its stuff.

Also, if you want to make two saves to guard against the possibility of a corrupt file, you don't need to exit the game (or your patrol) in order to do that.

Just hit Esc and Save to create the first save file, then hit Continue or whatever to return to the game for a couple of seconds. Hit Esc again and then Save & Exit to make a second save before you exit the game. Just make sure you give the second save a different filename or you'll overwrite the first one you just made.
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Old 12-30-10, 01:19 PM   #7
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Also, if you want to make two saves to guard against the possibility of a corrupt file, you don't need to exit the game (or your patrol) in order to do that.

Just hit Esc and Save to create the first save file, then hit Continue or whatever to return to the game for a couple of seconds. Hit Esc again and then Save & Exit to make a second save before you exit the game. Just make sure you give the second save a different filename or you'll overwrite the first one you just made.
Many thx!

Yep...I did it already on my own this afternoon

Btw

This horrible sh3 save system doesn't allow to delete previous files
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Old 12-30-10, 06:20 AM   #8
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Actually, it's not SH3Cmdr that is getting confused, it's simply the player.

Robin40, by returning to base you have effectively, as far as SH3 is concerned, ended your patrol, regardless of whether or not you penultimately saved it "in the water". As SH3Cmdr merely reads the SH3 game files, this is why it reports your career as "In home base before patrol X".

You need to "Save and Exit", as CherryHarbey recommended, to save mid patrol. Then SH3Cmdr will report your status as "At sea during patrol X" and crew transfers and Kaleun retirements will not occur.
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