New to SH3, and some nitpicks

GoldenRivet · 12-29-10, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer

As soon as you click or press a key to go to them?
You get the same settings.
So if a Camera is programmed to look straight ahead of your U-Boot?
That's what you'll get.
As soon as you leave that area?
It defaults to programmed settings.
Easy to understand.

I think he means that - as he rotates the scopes - the 3D models of the scopes in external view remain pointed straight ahead.

WH4K · 12-29-10, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

I think he means that - as he rotates the scopes - the 3D models of the scopes in external view remain pointed straight ahead.

This. When I go back to the periscope, it's just where I left it, even though it doesn't look that way from the bridge.

SH3 is the first sub sim I've encountered that even acknowledges most subs had 2 periscopes. That they're present at all, and able to be used separately, is impressive.

Gerald · 12-29-10, 10:58 PM

Good luck,

Sailor Steve · 12-30-10, 12:35 AM

First of all, WELCOME ABOARD!

As to the periscopes, it's probably just something they didn't think of (or didn't have time for, or were too lazy). This is also the case for the observation 'scope in the control room. It always points forward. It's either FM's New Interiors mod or the Open Hatch Conning Tower mod that makes it work, but you can have it be pointed the way you left it - at least when you're inside.

Attack periscope housing in the way? I think the UZO is higher, but I also don't think they could point it aft. Not enough room.

And speaking of the UZO, why is it there at all? The only time they brought the thing to the bridge was when they were actually conducting a surface attack.

Quote:

Originally Posted by desirableroasted

It's always irked me, somewhere deep, that the watch crew is never in the way when I do a binoculars/UZO sweep.

Sergbuto made a freecam mod that made you move around the bridge because the watch crew were in the way. Unfortunately it's no longer available, and I can't find it in my collection even though I know I used to use it.

There is an adaptation of it, but I don't remember if this version had the crew in the way, but here is the link:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=1953

Quote:

Originally Posted by WH4K

Another, much bigger problem: Is there any way at all that I can get SH3 to minimize to the taskbar?

As said, Alt+Tab works. I've always used the Windows key without any trouble.

Tessa · 12-30-10, 12:41 AM

Welcome aboard and enjoy the ride

Alt+Tab has always worked for me in the past to move between desktop and game, be sure to pause the game before you move out otherwise the game will continue to run at whatever TC setting you were using.

For a more enhanced bridge you might want to check out this mod. While SH3 does have its little annoyances or lack of nuances, don't loose site that the game is 6 years old! The GWX team and moders have done a tremendous job in reproducing the historical accuracy and increasing the quality level of the graphics over the years, more work has been done on this game than any other I've played (and is continually being moded).

If you've only installed GWX you have only just opened pandora's box; there is a plethora of great mods to add on to enhance graphics, add more/new ships, and much much more. All add to the realism and make it even better.

Gargamel · 12-30-10, 01:31 AM

If you play it in a windowed mode like I do, you can minimize it by right clicking the taskbar and selecting minimize. Whatever the shortcut key is would probably work too.

EDIT: Ok now as I try it, I cnat get the menu to pop-up.... hmmmm...

Gerald · 12-30-10, 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gargamel

If you play it in a windowed mode like I do, you can minimize it by right clicking the taskbar and selecting minimize. Whatever the shortcut key is would probably work too.

EDIT: Ok now as I try it, I cnat get the menu to pop-up.... hmmmm...

We eagerly await your results, the whole world looks at you,

WH4K · 12-30-10, 11:13 AM

Speaking of the UZO, yeah, I can't see that thing being left on the bridge when a dive happens.

It must have been a high-quality, very expensive set of binoculars. Even if that's basically all it was.

I don't see how one could use the UZO to eyeball targets much past 90° to either side. Where would you stand? I imagine the U-boat commanders painted hash marks on the bridge coaming or something, for engaging astern targets. Or just used one of the periscopes.

K-61 · 12-30-10, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WH4K

Speaking of the UZO, yeah, I can't see that thing being left on the bridge when a dive happens.

It must have been a high-quality, very expensive set of binoculars. Even if that's basically all it was.

I don't see how one could use the UZO to eyeball targets much past 90° to either side. Where would you stand? I imagine the U-boat commanders painted hash marks on the bridge coaming or something, for engaging astern targets. Or just used one of the periscopes.

Ever seen the film "Das Boot?" There's a scene in there where the Kaleun orders the UZO to the bridge and you see one of the officers clamp it to its pedestal in preparation for surfaced firing of torpedoes. You'd definitely not want to leave such a precision optical device clamped on, seeing as how it would be subject to pressure from deep diving and blasts from depth charges.

WH4K · 12-30-10, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gargamel

If you play it in a windowed mode like I do, you can minimize it by right clicking the taskbar and selecting minimize. Whatever the shortcut key is would probably work too.

EDIT: Ok now as I try it, I cnat get the menu to pop-up.... hmmmm...

I'm playing in a window right now. The problem is that the game defaulted to 1024x768 resolution, which is small and kinda ugly. I have a huge monitor (21" CRT) so I'd rather run it at something like 1280x1024.

Any way to do that in a window? I downloaded & installed the patch to get 1600x1200 res when fullscreen, but it doesn't seem to affect running in a window.

TarJak · 12-30-10, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by WH4K

I'm playing in a window right now. The problem is that the game defaulted to 1024x768 resolution, which is small and kinda ugly. I have a huge monitor (21" CRT) so I'd rather run it at something like 1280x1024.

Any way to do that in a window? I downloaded & installed the patch to get 1600x1200 res when fullscreen, but it doesn't seem to affect running in a window.

Nope. Windowed mode only has one resolution to my knowledge.

Herr-Berbunch · 12-31-10, 04:17 AM

Alt-Tab works fine for me now, but on my old system - P4, 2.66GHz, ATI X800XL, 1.5 Gig RAM - it used to CDT

Jimbuna · 12-31-10, 01:42 PM

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WH4K · 01-02-11, 01:25 PM

Nope, Alt+Tab doesn't minimize SH3. I can see a brief flicker of the system menu bar, and the mouse & keyboard focus is taken away (e.g. mouse clicks don't do anything in SH3) but SH3 still takes up my display.

Wonder if it's because I am running dual displays?

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WH4K Frogman Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 291 Downloads: 56 Uploads: 0	Nope, Alt+Tab doesn't minimize SH3. I can see a brief flicker of the system menu bar, and the mouse & keyboard focus is taken away (e.g. mouse clicks don't do anything in SH3) but SH3 still takes up my display. Wonder if it's because I am running dual displays? __________________ Windows 10 Pro (x64)

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Tessa Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: CG 96 Posts: 861 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Welcome aboard and enjoy the ride Alt+Tab has always worked for me in the past to move between desktop and game, be sure to pause the game before you move out otherwise the game will continue to run at whatever TC setting you were using. For a more enhanced bridge you might want to check out this mod. While SH3 does have its little annoyances or lack of nuances, don't loose site that the game is 6 years old! The GWX team and moders have done a tremendous job in reproducing the historical accuracy and increasing the quality level of the graphics over the years, more work has been done on this game than any other I've played (and is continually being moded). If you've only installed GWX you have only just opened pandora's box; there is a plethora of great mods to add on to enhance graphics, add more/new ships, and much much more. All add to the realism and make it even better.

12-30-10, 11:13 AM	#8
WH4K Frogman Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 291 Downloads: 56 Uploads: 0	Speaking of the UZO, yeah, I can't see that thing being left on the bridge when a dive happens. It must have been a high-quality, very expensive set of binoculars. Even if that's basically all it was. I don't see how one could use the UZO to eyeball targets much past 90° to either side. Where would you stand? I imagine the U-boat commanders painted hash marks on the bridge coaming or something, for engaging astern targets. Or just used one of the periscopes.