CPU wil not turn on. - Page 2

antikristuseke · 12-28-10, 02:06 PM

From my experience most reviews are mixed since there will always be a lemon

Factor · 12-28-10, 02:38 PM

As long as it is the fix, and it does its job, then I will be happy.

This will give me a 100w upgrade too. Part ordered. Should be here by the 31st. Not holding my breath on that.

By the way, almost all reviews i read were mixed on about all products. 80 bux for a 600w PSU i think is reasonable. I have my case, components, fans and watercooler coils cleaned to almost new condition. God it was nasty.

I took the old PSU out, took the metal fan screen off, and it was almost full of nasty black sticky dust. It was coming out in clumps. My hands looked like a mechanics when i was done messing with it. lol

Now, I wait.......

AVGWarhawk · 12-28-10, 03:28 PM

Betcha it is the small watch memory battery on the motherboard causing the no starts.

Factor · 12-28-10, 04:11 PM

That would suck. Well, at least I would still have a new PSU, and a cleaned out case.

I don't think it is the battery however. The BIOS have not reset, and the date and time is correct in BIOS as well. If the PSU doesn't fix, then Ill try the 3 dollar battery. After that I would suspect a MoBo failure.

AVGWarhawk · 12-28-10, 04:56 PM

Another experience I had was the darn on/off button. Mine would run for a few days and then just say 'Windows is shutting down" It would shut down like I had asked it to shut down. Sometimes it would fire up for a second and not start at all. I had an old case and I used the on/off button from it. That worked. I went and purchased a new case with button.

Factor · 12-28-10, 05:13 PM

Would a faulty power switch cause it to switch off during the boot process, each and everytime.

TLAM Strike · 12-28-10, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Factor

Would a faulty power switch cause it to switch off during the boot process, each and everytime.

I doubt it, a on off switch is mechanical so its more a will work or won't work item. If you had trouble turning the machine on then I would suggest a switch... or a paper clip.

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Originally Posted by antikristuseke

PSU's are buit to a standard, they will all fit unless you go for some oversized unti, but that particular unit should be decent.

That's why god invented zip ties and duct tape.

AVGWarhawk · 12-29-10, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Factor

Would a faulty power switch cause it to switch off during the boot process, each and everytime.

Mine did. Sometimes all it did was start the fans spinning for a second and that was it. Sometimes if I kept the button pushed it would start. Sometimes it would start right up like nothing was wrong. It would run a day or so then do the "windows is shutting down." This is the normal message you see when you shut down the machine. I went and jammed in a new PS I had. I did the memtest. No change. The last straw was the power button. I had an old one that I just hooked up and left hang. Fired right up and worked for a week. I ordered a new case with power button. The computer has run flawlessly since then. Still does today as it runs SIM 3 and surfs the net for my daughters. It is a real workhorse still pushing XP. The machine is about 6 years old now. Emachine....and people laughed

Also, the watch battery. My friends would boot to a black screen then BSOD and shut down. All in a matter of seconds. Battery replaced and runs fine now.

TLAM Strike · 12-29-10, 11:59 AM

Now that I think about it if there is a short somewhere in the wiring in the computer it can cause the fans to start to spin then shut right down. I had that happen with a faulty case fan.

But my system with the faulty fan never booted.

AVGWarhawk · 12-29-10, 12:29 PM

Whatever the case, it is extremely frustrating to say the least. A simple 1/2 cent power button was between me tossing the computer for a new one or keep on throwing new parts at it until it worked.

Jan Kyster · 12-30-10, 09:07 PM

I'll put $10 on the GPU. Once it went just too hot and thereby its thermal grease was severely degraded.

If that will turn up not to be the case, then I'll put $8 on the same issue with the CPU. But I doubt it.
The AMD should shut the system down at way lower temps that the 9800GTX will...

Factor · 12-31-10, 12:41 PM

I replaced the 9800gtx with a 7950 gt to see if the 9800gtx was the culprit, and was getting the same results. The CPU is watercooled, so i dont know if it overheated.

I looked over the MoBo really good. I saw some capacitors that looked like they were "leaking", but some canned air and a toothpick cleaned the grooves on the tops of the ones that looked suspect to reveal that they were infact still good. (Hopefully)

The tracking # on the PSU shows it is at the UPS in Greensboro, NC, where i live, (arrival scan 1pm yesterday) but, they do not do ground deliveries on NewYears Eve, and I can't go pick it up because customer support there is off today. Oh well. Will be here Monday.

I have already have begun to look at MoBo's online just in case.
The one I am using now is a MSI K9N SLI Platinum.

Factor · 12-31-10, 01:41 PM

Ok, I may have found out what is going on...

Haven't got the PSU yet, so I am not sure, BUT, after looking over each capacitor closely, I have noticed four beside the processor, that are slightly bulged. Not much, but they are not flat like the rest.

So, the MoBo may be the culprit. Can the capacitors be replaced, or, am i gonna have to get a new MoBo if in fact this is the problem?

FIREWALL · 12-31-10, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Factor

Ok, I may have found out what is going on...

Haven't got the PSU yet, so I am not sure, BUT, after looking over each capacitor closely, I have noticed four beside the processor, that are slightly bulged. Not much, but they are not flat like the rest.

So, the MoBo may be the culprit. Can the capacitors be replaced, or, am i gonna have to get a new MoBo if in fact this is the problem?

R&Ring a mobo takes some skill. If you can do it, I guess so.

I'm assuming your mobo is out of warranty.

I would wait until I got the psu and tried it first tho.

Factor · 12-31-10, 02:35 PM

I would see if Intrex could put new caps on the MoBo. I will try the PSU first, but I have a feeling those caps are blown, after looking at pictures online and reading up on them. They are raised ever so slightly. All the others are flat.

The board is 4 or 5 years old, so its not covered. I don't want to spend cash on a new MoBo, but if I have too i will. I am sure I can install it, but I have never installed a processor before and the whole thermal grease application would have me nervous. Plus a watercooler sits on top of it. It is not a repair I would feel 100% confident in doing. But I will try!

12-28-10, 03:28 PM	#18
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,293 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Betcha it is the small watch memory battery on the motherboard causing the no starts. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

12-28-10, 04:56 PM	#20
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,293 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Another experience I had was the darn on/off button. Mine would run for a few days and then just say 'Windows is shutting down" It would shut down like I had asked it to shut down. Sometimes it would fire up for a second and not start at all. I had an old case and I used the on/off button from it. That worked. I went and purchased a new case with button. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

12-29-10, 11:59 AM	#24
TLAM Strike Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 8,633 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 6	Now that I think about it if there is a short somewhere in the wiring in the computer it can cause the fans to start to spin then shut right down. I had that happen with a faulty case fan. But my system with the faulty fan never booted. __________________

12-29-10, 12:29 PM	#25
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,293 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Whatever the case, it is extremely frustrating to say the least. A simple 1/2 cent power button was between me tossing the computer for a new one or keep on throwing new parts at it until it worked. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

12-28-10, 02:06 PM	#16
antikristuseke Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Estland Posts: 4,330 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	From my experience most reviews are mixed since there will always be a lemon

12-28-10, 02:38 PM	#17
Factor Weps Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 356 Downloads: 180 Uploads: 0	As long as it is the fix, and it does its job, then I will be happy. This will give me a 100w upgrade too. Part ordered. Should be here by the 31st. Not holding my breath on that. By the way, almost all reviews i read were mixed on about all products. 80 bux for a 600w PSU i think is reasonable. I have my case, components, fans and watercooler coils cleaned to almost new condition. God it was nasty. I took the old PSU out, took the metal fan screen off, and it was almost full of nasty black sticky dust. It was coming out in clumps. My hands looked like a mechanics when i was done messing with it. lol Now, I wait.......

12-28-10, 04:11 PM	#19
Factor Weps Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 356 Downloads: 180 Uploads: 0	That would suck. Well, at least I would still have a new PSU, and a cleaned out case. I don't think it is the battery however. The BIOS have not reset, and the date and time is correct in BIOS as well. If the PSU doesn't fix, then Ill try the 3 dollar battery. After that I would suspect a MoBo failure.

12-28-10, 05:13 PM	#21
Factor Weps Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 356 Downloads: 180 Uploads: 0	Would a faulty power switch cause it to switch off during the boot process, each and everytime.

12-30-10, 09:07 PM	#26
Jan Kyster Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,151 Downloads: 152 Uploads: 0	I'll put $10 on the GPU. Once it went just too hot and thereby its thermal grease was severely degraded. If that will turn up not to be the case, then I'll put $8 on the same issue with the CPU. But I doubt it. The AMD should shut the system down at way lower temps that the 9800GTX will...

12-31-10, 12:41 PM	#27
Factor Weps Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 356 Downloads: 180 Uploads: 0	I replaced the 9800gtx with a 7950 gt to see if the 9800gtx was the culprit, and was getting the same results. The CPU is watercooled, so i dont know if it overheated. I looked over the MoBo really good. I saw some capacitors that looked like they were "leaking", but some canned air and a toothpick cleaned the grooves on the tops of the ones that looked suspect to reveal that they were infact still good. (Hopefully) The tracking # on the PSU shows it is at the UPS in Greensboro, NC, where i live, (arrival scan 1pm yesterday) but, they do not do ground deliveries on NewYears Eve, and I can't go pick it up because customer support there is off today. Oh well. Will be here Monday. I have already have begun to look at MoBo's online just in case. The one I am using now is a MSI K9N SLI Platinum.

12-31-10, 01:41 PM	#28
Factor Weps Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 356 Downloads: 180 Uploads: 0	Ok, I may have found out what is going on... Haven't got the PSU yet, so I am not sure, BUT, after looking over each capacitor closely, I have noticed four beside the processor, that are slightly bulged. Not much, but they are not flat like the rest. So, the MoBo may be the culprit. Can the capacitors be replaced, or, am i gonna have to get a new MoBo if in fact this is the problem?

12-31-10, 02:35 PM	#30
Factor Weps Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 356 Downloads: 180 Uploads: 0	I would see if Intrex could put new caps on the MoBo. I will try the PSU first, but I have a feeling those caps are blown, after looking at pictures online and reading up on them. They are raised ever so slightly. All the others are flat. The board is 4 or 5 years old, so its not covered. I don't want to spend cash on a new MoBo, but if I have too i will. I am sure I can install it, but I have never installed a processor before and the whole thermal grease application would have me nervous. Plus a watercooler sits on top of it. It is not a repair I would feel 100% confident in doing. But I will try!