Heavy snow and ice bring travel chaos across UK

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

Depends for what, in mild temperatures it will speed up melting and make it easier to scrape off the ice. However, even at -20 celsius, it will still melt through the ice and give you increased traction. I use it on my driveway during the winter.

Then my local authority must be buying an inferior quality substance because a friend of mine who is responsible for keeping the highways open in the district informs me that at (and I honestly can't remember the temperature but know it wasn't as high as -10) "You may as well put nothing down and plough only because the grit ceases to work".

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Cumbria got a 3.6 rattle last night too. Nothing felt down here, but I am rather a distance from it.

Sorry bout that but I dropped my wallet whilst out at the pub

Either that or the reverberation of Vendor hammering his keyboard again

[Skybird]

I had an interesting read yesterday, about the problems in air traffic. I only say: bad preparation, bad training of the winter crews, bad equipment, and bad imagination (why should you expect ice and snow in winter, eh?) .

I read the comparsion between the airports in Frankfurt and Stockholm. In Frankfurt, the winter service needs 30 minutes to de-ice one runway with their full group of vehicles and servicemen. In Stockholm, they need - world record holder they are - 5 minutes. They run a swift ballet with their deicing vehicles, which is better coordinated and moving faster than anywhere else.

Imagine: while the Germans would have cleaned one half of the first runway, the Swedes already would have cleared all three of Frankfurt's runways completely!

The article said Stockholm is inviting other European airports to take classes in winter services there.

The immense problems with the German rail services, are selfmade. Too much resources and reserves were killed in order to prepare for bringing it to the stockmarket. Too much money got sunk in prestigious mamoth projects, money that was not spend for maintaining proper train and railnet maintenance. And the S-Bahn in Berlin - don't get me started. I assume in many third world countries they have more capable train systems than in Berlin.

[Gerald]

Passengers slept overnight at Brussels' Zaventem airport.Stranded air passengers have spent the night at airports in Paris and Brussels after freezing weather severely disrupted Christmas travel.Some 200 people slept overnight at Charles de Gaulle airport in Paris, which cancelled 400 flights because of snow and ice.Flights and trains were also disrupted in Belgium, where significant snow fell overnight, and in Germany.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12078495



Note: 25 December 2010 Last updated at 09:18 GMT

[gimpy117]

20cm? so that like what? a lil ocer 10 inches. we had 2 feet in a day once....guess were



yeah even our cops fall victim to winter here.

[Oberon]

Well, we had a smattering of snow here Christmas eve night and Christmas day morning, so I guess we qualify for a white Christmas, the first I've ever experienced. It's not *looks out of window* doing anything out there now though, clear starry skies. One of the things about being slap bang next to the sea I guess.

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Well, we had a smattering of snow here Christmas eve night and Christmas day morning, so I guess we qualify for a white Christmas

It must fall on London to be official, every where else dose not count. I've be glad when all this damn blasted snow & ice melts, hate it.

Lazy sods around here not cleaning there pathways should be fined £1000 in my book. So much for community spirit in mucking in & helping out.

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by STEED

It must fall on London to be official, every where else dose not count. I've be glad when all this damn blasted snow & ice melts, hate it.

Lazy sods around here not cleaning there pathways should be fined £1000 in my book. So much for community spirit in mucking in & helping out.

This is just the beginning of the season, so you may make an upgrade on clothes and car fronts for the family, for more snow and cold will,

[XabbaRus]

Actually Steed they changed the rules if I understood the met office presenter the other day.

Snow has to actually fall, lying snow doesn't count but then again the bookies were probably on the right side of the profit line.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by XabbaRus

Actually Steed they changed the rules if I understood the met office presenter the other day.

Snow has to actually fall, lying snow doesn't count but then again the bookies were probably on the right side of the profit line.

Yap...no snow in Londan so the bookies were happy:

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...-15038969.html

[gimpy117]

Grit? we need to get the michigan road commission out to teach them. or just send them a bag of salt.

[TarJak]

Sounds like you need . (Note there are two links not one).

[Gerald]

Boxing Day started exceptionally cold with -16C (10F) being recorded in Pershore, Worcestershire. In fact if December continues as cold as it has been so far, it will be the United Kingdom's coldest December since records began in 1910. However, with temperatures in most areas set to rise from Tuesday this is still not guaranteed. While this weekend has been visibly white for many of us across the country with plenty of lying snow, only the cities of Aberdeen, Edinburgh, Glasgow and Lincoln, as well as parts of North Yorkshire, had an official white Christmas this year with fresh falling snow on Christmas Day.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/hi/new...00/9282009.stm



Note: Update record, 02:14 GMT, Monday, 27 December 2010

[vlad29]

Originally Posted by Vendor

Boxing Day started exceptionally cold with -16C (10F) being recorded in Pershore, Worcestershire. In fact if December continues as cold as it has been so far, it will be the United Kingdom's coldest December since records began in 1910. However, with temperatures in most areas set to rise from Tuesday this is still not guaranteed. While this weekend has been visibly white for many of us across the country with plenty of lying snow, only the cities of Aberdeen, Edinburgh, Glasgow and Lincoln, as well as parts of North Yorkshire, had an official white Christmas this year with fresh falling snow on Christmas Day.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/hi/new...00/9282009.stm





Note: Update record, 02:14 GMT, Monday, 27 December 2010

The scientists say it's "global climate WARMing" on the planet now In fact to have real white Xmas with falling snow is much more better than "real grey" ones with rain. Just enjoy it as you wish
So Merry Chriestmas to all of you.

ps. We got -26C today at 8.30 am (GMT +3), and at 12 a.m. it rises to -20C. Its normall for us in late Dec. The "terrain" outside looks really great and misterious.

[Gerald]

I hope that Christmas has been good to you, yes It's better to have real winter, instead of rain and dishwater, so have a good time