The War You Don't See

[Penguin]

The youtube link works fine - at least from here.

I've made the experience that the uk broadcasters mostly make their streams only accessable from a british IP, channel4 also lets the Irish watch their streams. Usually british tv clears the rights to use external images only for the islands, most other european stations have their streaming media accessable from european IPs or even worldwide.
glad to give out uninteresting background infos...

[danlisa]

Very true Jumpy.

It has recently dawned on me that the UK Government is creating a 'Fear State'. Everything (major) is depicted to the general populace as a threat to your/our health, security, way of life etc......and becomes 'authorised' based on the embellished half truth of the initial situation.

Of course, when the exact truth becomes public knowledge, it's all ok because at the time, public support backed the motion.

[DarkFish]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

If something is quoted then followed with a comment relating to that quote then it should be fairly obvious that the comment is about what was quoted.

Jeez, he's trying to be helpful here.

Jeez, he's trying to be helpful here.

Yes, but it had nothing to do with what was written so it wasn't and then he appears to take personal offence at something which wasn't even directed to him.

[krashkart]

Originally Posted by Penguin

The role of the media in preperation for war:
Having been in the US in the summer of '03 and watching the media I felt like I was in a contemporary version of the Wochenschau.

Did you happen to watch any of the histories of Iraq on the Discovery and History channels while you were here? The government used every avenue they could to get us geared up for the invasion.

[Penguin]

Originally Posted by krashkart

Did you happen to watch any of the histories of Iraq on the Discovery and History channels while you were here? The government used every avenue they could to get us geared up for the invasion.

Nope, my relatives didn't have cable at this time, I just watched the mainstream channels or read the local SF papers. On them it was more like history of the Saddam regime in a time lapse. Time magazine covered some more background infos.
I noticed an increase in car flags though!

[jumpy]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Was the comment about the youtube link? hmmmm

Originally Posted by Tribesman

If something is quoted then followed with a comment relating to that quote then it should be fairly obvious that the comment is about what was quoted.

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Yes, but it had nothing to do with what was written so it wasn't and then he appears to take personal offence at something which wasn't even directed to him.

I've left this thread alone for the last 12 hours or so, so that I can come back to it and decide if I last posted in haste (having less tolerance for things that annoy me these days).

In the past I have found 'content blocking' from television sites and from certain youtube channels.
As some were interested in the links, I decided to try and question what was missing and reply with something useful that others could see. There's usually more than one source location online these days, so I thought I'd do a little of the leg work myself, seeing as I started this topic.

I took offence of your parroting of my last post with what I took to be obvious sarcasm (and if it wasn't directed at me, why did you quote it?). I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that your intent was lost in translation somewhere, but I must ask - Other than showing yourself for a pedant, what have you positively contributed to the subject of this topic so far and what will you post next that has any relevance to it? Think carefully before you answer.

[krashkart]

Originally Posted by danlisa

Very true Jumpy.

It has recently dawned on me that the UK Government is creating a 'Fear State'. Everything (major) is depicted to the general populace as a threat to your/our health, security, way of life etc......and becomes 'authorised' based on the embellished half truth of the initial situation.

Of course, when the exact truth becomes public knowledge, it's all ok because at the time, public support backed the motion.

Oh, that's been the norm here in the States for at least nine years. You'll get used to it. Just relax and breathe deeply. This won't hurt a bit.

They take us for complete schlubs.

Originally Posted by Penguin

Nope, my relatives didn't have cable at this time, I just watched the mainstream channels or read the local SF papers. On them it was more like history of the Saddam regime in a time lapse. Time magazine covered some more background infos.
I noticed an increase in car flags though!

Ah, so you did get to see the machine gearing up. Lovely sight, yes?

I took offence of your parroting of my last post with what I took to be obvious sarcasm (and if it wasn't directed at me, why did you quote it?).

That one was directed at you, which is why it quoted you, it relates to that post which you directed at the earlier post which didn't quote you and wasn't directed at you.

Think carefully before you answer.

Likewise

In the past I have found 'content blocking' from television sites and from certain youtube channels.

Indeed, it is very common worldwide, it spured Penguin to write.

Due to british copyright laws, television broadcast streams are only accesable from the UK and Ireland.

Which is incorrect in many ways, BBC broadcast streams are often available worldwide. It has the same British copyright laws as it is in Britain so that cannot have been the reason.
This specific ITV link was available from the UK only, not including Ireland at all and is a simple issue of how ITV is set up as a company of various franchises which markets themselves regionally nationally and internationally in many ways and makes the streams available according to how it is marketing them from its numerous outlets.
So if I wanted an ordinary ITV stream that wasn't UK only I would go to UTV which has cross border deals or TV3 which is an Irish franchise owned by an ITV group.
Alternately I could simply use an ITV stream that isn't ITV 1 if they happen to be carrying an ITV 1 program at a later date.

[Sammi79]

Originally Posted by danlisa

It has recently dawned on me that the UK Government is creating a 'Fear State'. Everything (major) is depicted to the general populace as a threat to your/our health, security, way of life etc......and becomes 'authorised' based on the embellished half truth of the initial situation.

The trick is, every time the media seems to be in a frenzy about some 'Major' risk to health/security/etc... that's the time to stop worrying. And the louder their message seems to get, the less you worry about the content of their message. It might sound cynical folks but it has served me well as a realist.

Example :-

Bird flu, then Pig flu, OMFG! oh but when you get it it'll be human flu (which is a very well known and analysed virus here in 2010) and, like its previous mutations, may kill you if you're very old, very young, or have a compromised immune system (MS/ME/AIDS+others)

What happened to Badger flu then?

On topic then, I must say it's obvious that governments like to control their propaganda - have vito over anything they don't want us to see. And if you let them they'll direct the entire scene you do see to fit their repetitive statements. (If I was a 'government' I'm sure my agenda would be the same) What on earth would people think if they realised what conniving, manipulative, dishonest, selfish, greedy, peadophilic.... no hang on, edit that last word out would you....

To me it's truly a surprise to think people are surprised by this. Old news is what it is, pure and simple. Be amused by the medias current efforts to subvert our intelligence and feel smug that they think you think they're for real.

Anyway, If we didn't have our armies fighting and dying around Afghanistan and Iraq, my GOD the smack would be more expensive. It's only the puppet warlord WE put in place during our occupation (sorry, 'Liberation') who makes sure the opium keeps flowing (at prices your average street dealer would think he just won the lottery) and HIS militia that enables the shipments to get through HIS border checkpoints without problems. We have our own guys this side and it's a system that has worked well for 50 years so what is the problem?